Have we completely lost Iraq, and are we losing Afghanistan?

Re: Have we completely lost Iraq, and are we losing Afghanistan?

PostBy: Flyer5 On: Fri Jun 13, 2014 8:06 am

samhill wrote:Peace through killing, I love that. I say start up the draft again & watch both the exodus & the riots in the streets. It would solve the immigration problem & get rid of a lot of both freeloaders & self called patriots at the same time. One question, just where do the chicken hawks that are so fiscally responsible come up with the billions for these wars, can't fill potholes (if you have paved roads), take care of Vets or feed the poor but no problem attacking a country that we should of had nothing to do with in the first place. But don't worry the oil fields will be safe.



What the hell are you talking about Sam?
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Re: Have we completely lost Iraq, and are we losing Afghanistan?

PostBy: whistlenut On: Fri Jun 13, 2014 8:17 am

The instant oil price increases, BOHICA America. Numb Nuts landed in the US at 3:30...The inmates are running the Asylum.......SNAFU!!!
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Re: Have we completely lost Iraq, and are we losing Afghanistan?

PostBy: samhill On: Fri Jun 13, 2014 8:41 am

What I'm talking about Flyer, is how SB wants a noble pease prize given back for not bombing Iraq, how many are predicting an invasion of the U.S. & what would they do. The answer IMO is either run or surrender, & that is even if it came down to reinstating the draft, see how many of these good guys with guns would line up. Lastly where does all this money come from, we are broke you cons keep saying we can't afford basic things for our own people & country but can somehow come up with plenty of cash for bombs.
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Re: Have we completely lost Iraq, and are we losing Afghanistan?

PostBy: Sunny Boy On: Fri Jun 13, 2014 9:07 am

samhill wrote:What I'm talking about Flyer, is how SB wants a noble pease prize given back for not bombing Iraq, how many are predicting an invasion of the U.S. & what would they do. The answer IMO is either run or surrender, & that is even if it came down to reinstating the draft, see how many of these good guys with guns would line up. Lastly where does all this money come from, we are broke you cons keep saying we can't afford basic things for our own people & country but can somehow come up with plenty of cash for bombs.


No, SB never said anything about bombing Iraq. Sam is saying SB said it. Try quoting instead of creating. Can you see the difference now ?

If you want to debate, stop twisting what others say. Your starting to remind me of my ex-wife. :shock:

Paul
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Re: Have we completely lost Iraq, and are we losing Afghanistan?

PostBy: samhill On: Fri Jun 13, 2014 9:38 am

Sorry SB, no you didn't say it about the lack of bombing, the line of reply's have been going about how we never should have left Iraq & how leaving has dire cause of concern of our pease (sorry about that but it's brought up to me often).
But then why do you believe the Peace Prize should be returned?
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Re: Have we completely lost Iraq, and are we losing Afghanistan?

PostBy: coalnewbie On: Fri Jun 13, 2014 9:42 am

But then why do you believe the Peace Prize should be returned?


Mainly because it should not have been awarded in the first place. More academic left wing c rap that debased Dr Nobel.
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Re: Have we completely lost Iraq, and are we losing Afghanistan?

PostBy: EarthWindandFire On: Fri Jun 13, 2014 9:54 am

Certain countries can only be ruled by an iron fist. Iraq needs another Saddam Hussein "type" of Dictator. Countries like Iraq and Afghanistan simply can't be controlled democratically or have any form of government familiar or acceptable to western cultures. Idealistic thoughts about having a friendly western-style government is naïve and simple-minded.
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Re: Have we completely lost Iraq, and are we losing Afghanistan?

PostBy: samhill On: Fri Jun 13, 2014 9:57 am

I'm guessing here CNB, but I think there were more yes votes to over ride your no. :shock:
I really didn't think that he would have been in the running at that time but what do I know. Perhaps because he wanted to get us out of the wars, I don't know what it was.
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Re: Have we completely lost Iraq, and are we losing Afghanistan?

PostBy: Sunny Boy On: Fri Jun 13, 2014 10:23 am

samhill wrote:Sorry SB, no you didn't say it about the lack of bombing, the line of reply's have been going about how we never should have left Iraq & how leaving has dire cause of concern of our pease (sorry about that but it's brought up to me often).
But then why do you believe the Peace Prize should be returned?


Since he got the Pease Prize based not on anything he accomplished, but on his speech (remember the trip to Cairo ?) about how he's going to make the world a better, safer place. And how he was going to make America a respected leader in world peace, etc. etc. ..

Yet 6 years later he hasn't closed Gitmo. Instead he just turned loose AQ's A team. He dropped some of the sanctions on Iran, so they are back to making a bomb. He hasn't ended the war in Afghanistan, and his pull out from Iraq fell apart quickly after saying that he had AQ on their heels. Iran is in now in Iraq and if we do anything to help Iraq, we'll be partnering up with Iran.

He blocked or took states to court to stop them from enforcing the immigration laws he swore to up hold. He's turned tens of thousands of the worst of the illegal immigrants loose on our streets.

The Chinese and the Russians are bullying their neighbors and thumbing their nose at anything we say because unlike Bush, they know obummer won't do squat !

Does that sound like a "more peaceful, safer world" to you ?

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Re: Have we completely lost Iraq, and are we losing Afghanistan?

PostBy: I'm On Fire On: Fri Jun 13, 2014 11:02 am

Sunny Boy wrote:
samhill wrote:Sorry SB, no you didn't say it about the lack of bombing, the line of reply's have been going about how we never should have left Iraq & how leaving has dire cause of concern of our pease (sorry about that but it's brought up to me often).
But then why do you believe the Peace Prize should be returned?


Since he got the Pease Prize based not on anything he accomplished, but on his speech (remember the trip to Cairo ?) about how he's going to make the world a better, safer place. And how he was going to make America a respected leader in world peace, etc. etc. ..

Yet 6 years later he hasn't closed Gitmo. Instead he just turned loose AQ's A team. He dropped some of the sanctions on Iran, so they are back to making a bomb. He hasn't ended the war in Afghanistan, and his pull out from Iraq fell apart quickly after saying that he had AQ on their heels. Iran is in now in Iraq and if we do anything to help Iraq, we'll be partnering up with Iran.

He blocked or took states to court to stop them from enforcing the immigration laws he swore to up hold. He's turned tens of thousands of the worst of the illegal immigrants loose on our streets.

The Chinese and the Russians are bullying their neighbors and thumbing their nose at anything we say because unlike Bush, they know obummer won't do squat !

Does that sound like a "more peaceful, safer world" to you ?

Paul[/quote]
You forgot he's in the process of disarming his own people and attempting to abolish the US Constitution and Bill of Rights.
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Re: Have we completely lost Iraq, and are we losing Afghanistan?

PostBy: Sunny Boy On: Fri Jun 13, 2014 11:14 am

Yeah, IOF, and then there's that.

Luckily, he'd not doing a very good job of disarming private citizens. In fact, the way he's been going about it, he's doing more arming than disarming. Heck, he and Eric the Red have even been arming drug cartels. ;)

He's more likely to be voted salesman of the year by the Shooting Sports associations and the gun and ammo manufacturers. :D

What concerns me more is how he's also arming so many Gov agencies that do not need to be.

Paul
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Re: Have we completely lost Iraq, and are we losing Afghanistan?

PostBy: Flyer5 On: Fri Jun 13, 2014 11:40 am

Sunny Boy wrote:Yeah, IOF, and then there's that.

Luckily, he'd not doing a very good job of disarming private citizens. In fact, the way he's been going about it, he's doing more arming than disarming. Heck, he and Eric the Red have even been arming drug cartels. ;)

He's more likely to be voted salesman of the year by the Shooting Sports associations and the gun and ammo manufacturers. :D

What concerns me more is how he's also arming so many Gov agencies that do not need to be.

Paul



My WAGuess tells me 60 or 70% of the armed govt agencies that are armed would not use them against fellow Americans if the SHTF. Probably 20% of the rest would go home to their families. Well the other 20% wouldn't be a threat for long. I believe the gov realizes this and is why a full on ban has not been attempted. They have to boil the water slowly which is what they are trying to do.
I agree salesman of the year for gun companies and ammo yes. Nobel pee prize, no way.

Oh yea FBHO
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Re: Have we completely lost Iraq, and are we losing Afghanistan?

PostBy: Paulie On: Fri Jun 13, 2014 12:35 pm

Mideast is a mess, always has been, always will be. Let Iran deal with it, they caused the current
break down by not including everybody. I pray we don't touch it.
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Re: Have we completely lost Iraq, and are we losing Afghanistan?

PostBy: lsayre On: Fri Jun 13, 2014 7:09 pm

“I am very optimistic about Iraq. I think it’s gonna be one of the great achievements of this administration. You’re gonna see 90,000 American troops come marchin’ home by the end of the summer. You’re gonna see a stable government in Iraq that is actually movin’ toward a representative government. I’ve been there 17 times now. I go about every two months, three months. I know every one of the major players in all the segments of that society. It’s impressed me. I’ve been impressed, how they have been deciding to use the political process, rather than guns, to settle their differences.”
Vice President Joe Biden

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Re: Have we completely lost Iraq, and are we losing Afghanistan?

PostBy: Flyer5 On: Fri Jun 13, 2014 9:43 pm

Paulie wrote:Mideast is a mess, always has been, always will be. Let Iran deal with it, they caused the current
break down by not including everybody. I pray we don't touch it.




Better yet let Israel handle it their way.
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