Crane 404 - Our First Coal Burner
- Sunny Boy
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- Coal Size/Type: Nuts !
- Other Heating: Oil &electric plenum furnace
Congrats Dave, it's been a long wait. I know you'll be much happier not having to toss as much wood around !
Cats "sense" the temperatures around them very well with their faces - it's the only bare skin they have, other than the pads on their paws. They can easily sense the heat coming from a stove and know to stay off hot surfaces. As the stove temps change, sometimes you'll even see them change position to stay in the heat range they like best.
And yeah, get them their own chair if you want to sit near the stove too.
Paul
Cats "sense" the temperatures around them very well with their faces - it's the only bare skin they have, other than the pads on their paws. They can easily sense the heat coming from a stove and know to stay off hot surfaces. As the stove temps change, sometimes you'll even see them change position to stay in the heat range they like best.
And yeah, get them their own chair if you want to sit near the stove too.
Paul
- Hambden Bob
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Congrats ! Windy ! You are On Your Way !
- McGiever
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Dave, So Happy for you.
Your new to you stove will bring you much joy, the heat is pretty good also.
Your new to you stove will bring you much joy, the heat is pretty good also.
- windyhill4.2
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- Stoker Coal Boiler: 1960 EFM520 installed in truck box
- Hand Fed Coal Stove: Crane 404 with variable blower
- Coal Size/Type: 404-nut, 520 rice ,anthracite for both
Well,dcrane, the Fasco fan # 7021-2367 ,Type - u21 , HP 1/80 , amp .59 , RPM 3000 , cfm 75 , m/n - B75 A0CJ88 , there is no switch on the fan,only a cord.I do have a control with rotary dial that came with the stove. I plugged it in & was able to vary the fan speed from very slow to very fast . Should I be doing those cart wheels now ? At 57 yrs old it would be easier to do this if you or any one else that knows these fans good can let me know then I can either or just be if it is less than a variable speed fan.
- SMITTY
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On the topic of cats ...... they'll only jump on a hot stove ONCE.
My big guy Buddy did that once. Sat there for about 2 seconds, then launched airborne, hissing and shaking his feet. I tried to tell him it was hot, but he learned better that way.
My big guy Buddy did that once. Sat there for about 2 seconds, then launched airborne, hissing and shaking his feet. I tried to tell him it was hot, but he learned better that way.
- dcrane
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yes the variable unit is on the cord itself, Fasco may not even offer these anymore because they to damb expensive! let the gymnastics begin! Id have bought that unit just for the blower off it! the stove was free!windyhill4.2 wrote:Well,dcrane, the Fasco fan # 7021-2367 ,Type - u21 , HP 1/80 , amp .59 , RPM 3000 , cfm 75 , m/n - B75 A0CJ88 , there is no switch on the fan,only a cord.I do have a control with rotary dial that came with the stove. I plugged it in & was able to vary the fan speed from very slow to very fast . Should I be doing those cart wheels now ? At 57 yrs old it would be easier to do this if you or any one else that knows these fans good can let me know then I can either or just be if it is less than a variable speed fan.
- windyhill4.2
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- Stoker Coal Boiler: 1960 EFM520 installed in truck box
- Hand Fed Coal Stove: Crane 404 with variable blower
- Coal Size/Type: 404-nut, 520 rice ,anthracite for both
So I did much better than I thought I did ?? They were asking $100 ,i gave them that,no quibbling.i did peek at the grates & fire pot first.I have been studying hard at the Coal Forum College,apparently it has paid off !! WOW !! Cold temps this fall will prove if I was paying close attention in the how to build a fire in hand fed class.Then on to maintaining a consistent fire (1match) ,ash shake down........... I think I will be enrolling in the refresher classes, all of them . I like being ready for winter b4 it gets here. Oh... dcrane,i am planning to install this fan onto the hot air duct vent near the stove to back feed the duct work at a low speed running constantly for a more consistent warm feeling . I plan to enclose it & pull the hot air from the ceiling near the stove,pushing that air constantly thru the duct work. This will hopefully eliminate the cold feeling hot air produces when the fan first turns on,then air is warm & comfortable till it turns off & the room slowly cools & cycle repeats. Should I install a plate or screen over the existing fan hole in the rear of the stove since I removed the fan & plate from the stove.
- Sunny Boy
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- Coal Size/Type: Nuts !
- Other Heating: Oil &electric plenum furnace
$100.00 for a good working coal stove. Ya done good Dave - real good.
Now the big question is, . . . when ya gonna fire it up ?
Paul
Now the big question is, . . . when ya gonna fire it up ?
Paul
- Sunny Boy
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- Baseburners & Antiques: Glenwood range 208, # 6 base heater, 2 Modern Oak 118.
- Coal Size/Type: Nuts !
- Other Heating: Oil &electric plenum furnace
Doubled up posting - opps!
Paul
Paul
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- windyhill4.2
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- Hand Fed Coal Stove: Crane 404 with variable blower
- Coal Size/Type: 404-nut, 520 rice ,anthracite for both
We had 48* this a/m,i don't see anything near that in the long range forecast, we will likely try in about 3 months.I know that will be a long time to wait,but I am in no rush to end this beautiful weather we are having now to go to temps that we have to heat to enjoy life.Going into winter will be less daunting with this stove putting out heat in our house while the temps outside drop ever lower.Sunny Boy wrote:$100.00 for a good working coal stove. Ya done good Dave - real good.
Now the big question is, . . . when ya gonna fire it up ?
Paul
- windyhill4.2
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- Coal Size/Type: 404-nut, 520 rice ,anthracite for both
If it had been in our house & hooked up,i might have been very tempted to fire it this morning,48* outside & 68* inside,i like it warm.73-75*
- ONEDOLLAR
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Windy
Don't forget to update your profile with your "new" stove.... As Freetown Fred would say.. "Ain't nobody gonna steal it.."
Don't forget to update your profile with your "new" stove.... As Freetown Fred would say.. "Ain't nobody gonna steal it.."
- wsherrick
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Good luck with it. It will be a good stove to learn on.
- windyhill4.2
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- Coal Size/Type: 404-nut, 520 rice ,anthracite for both
Might be a wile till we post the pic in my profile as it will be awhile till we set the stove in place.ONEDOLLAR wrote:Windy
Don't forget to update your profile with your "new" stove.... As Freetown Fred would say.. "Ain't nobody gonna steal it.."