Crane 404 - Our first coal burner

Re: Crane 404 - Our first coal burner

PostBy: windyhill4.2 On: Fri Jan 01, 2016 8:23 am

blrman07 wrote:And a Happy New Year to you and yours also. It was sure nice to walk downstairs this morning and feel the warmth as I moved down the staircase. I got to the bottom, looked in the dining room and that nice orange glow with dancing blues running across the top was sure nice to see. :D

It sure was nice to feel that WARM stove radiating heat here this morning. Temps outside have fallen,the wind is picking up,temps are supposed to plummet all the way to 10* by Wed. a/m. Coal heat to the rescue !! :D
windyhill4.2
 
Stoker Coal Boiler: 1960 EFM520 installed in truck box
Hand Fed Coal Stove: Crane 404 with variable blower
Coal Size/Type: 404-nut, 520 rice ,anthracite for both

Re: Crane 404 - Our first coal burner

PostBy: windyhill4.2 On: Mon Jan 04, 2016 9:25 pm

Well, the weather is not waiting for Wed. a/m to drop to 10*,we currently have 9* already , + high wind :shock: With stove top temp at 500* ,it served well as a cook stove today besides keeping us warm & pumping lots of water into the air from a big kettle. At least we are sitting inside a warm room :D
windyhill4.2
 
Stoker Coal Boiler: 1960 EFM520 installed in truck box
Hand Fed Coal Stove: Crane 404 with variable blower
Coal Size/Type: 404-nut, 520 rice ,anthracite for both

Re: Crane 404 - Our first coal burner

PostBy: ddahlgren On: Tue Jan 05, 2016 12:02 am

Around 13F here running 550F and only 100F more left in the backup according to DCrane though have been to 700F a couple times last year with blower going full on. This weekend need to finish the inside widow film drill as it saves a bunch.
ddahlgren
 
Hand Fed Coal Stove: Crane 404

Re: Crane 404 - Our first coal burner

PostBy: Logs On: Tue Jan 05, 2016 12:39 am

It's 9 here windchill 2 , let the Chubby go out last night , no way it can keep up in these temps. Woodburner going strong 94 in basement , it's like a sauna down there, 76 in living room. I'm lovin it and so is Peteyboy :)
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Hand Fed Coal Stove: Chubby
Coal Size/Type: Nut anthracite
Other Heating: Fireplace and wood burner

Re: Crane 404 - Our first coal burner

PostBy: Logs On: Tue Jan 05, 2016 12:41 am

Darn pictures !!! He looks like he is stuck on the ceiling
Logs
 
Hand Fed Coal Stove: Chubby
Coal Size/Type: Nut anthracite
Other Heating: Fireplace and wood burner

Re: Crane 404 - Our first coal burner

PostBy: dcrane On: Tue Jan 05, 2016 12:43 am

ddahlgren wrote:Around 13F here running 550F and only 100F more left in the backup according to DCrane though have been to 700F a couple times last year with blower going full on. This weekend need to finish the inside widow film drill as it saves a bunch.


im not saying she cant do 700F in a pinch... the stove can, the firepot is the piece that will suffer long term however :cry: It is a very good idea to use the blower at those temps because that does indeed keep the area where the firepot fails cooler whilst allowing you to push the heat levels on top and front.
dcrane
 
Hand Fed Coal Stove: Crane 404

Re: Crane 404 - Our first coal burner

PostBy: ddahlgren On: Tue Jan 05, 2016 12:58 am

If I have to go above 550 blower on and electricity well spent is my thought. I want to avoid anything over 650. In CT power loaded rate around 0.24 per kwh so not cheap. generation charge delivery charge maintenance charge taxes geez. If I had electric heat might as well eat a bullet.
ddahlgren
 
Hand Fed Coal Stove: Crane 404

Re: Crane 404 - Our first coal burner

PostBy: McGiever On: Tue Jan 05, 2016 10:30 am

ddahlgren wrote:If I have to go above 550 blower on and electricity well spent is my thought. I want to avoid anything over 650. In CT power loaded rate around 0.24 per kwh so not cheap. generation charge delivery charge maintenance charge taxes geez. If I had electric heat might as well eat a bullet.


It's not for everyone but, with electricity at .24 your payback for solar is better. :idea:
McGiever
 
Stoker Coal Boiler: AXEMAN-ANDERSON 130 "1959"
Coal Size/Type: PEA / ANTHRACITE
Other Heating: Ground Source Heat Pump
Stove/Furnace Make: Hydro Heat /Mega Tek

Re: Crane 404 - Our first coal burner

PostBy: ddahlgren On: Tue Jan 05, 2016 11:16 am

McGiever wrote:
ddahlgren wrote:If I have to go above 550 blower on and electricity well spent is my thought. I want to avoid anything over 650. In CT power loaded rate around 0.24 per kwh so not cheap. generation charge delivery charge maintenance charge taxes geez. If I had electric heat might as well eat a bullet.


It's not for everyone but, with electricity at .24 your payback for solar is better. :idea:

I live in a historic district and there is a very long list of things I can't do. Solar is one. I can't put in a skylight any siding not original vynil windows or fence and the wood or iron fence has to have a 'correct style'. It is crazy.
ddahlgren
 
Hand Fed Coal Stove: Crane 404

Re: Crane 404 - Our first coal burner

PostBy: ddahlgren On: Wed Jan 06, 2016 5:43 am

It must be winter as up to 40+ pounds a day and under 12 hour tending times. But the 404 plugging along at 550 with blower going
ddahlgren
 
Hand Fed Coal Stove: Crane 404

Re: Crane 404 - Our first coal burner

PostBy: windyhill4.2 On: Tue Jan 12, 2016 10:18 pm

Some pics of our Crane at work.
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Stoker Coal Boiler: 1960 EFM520 installed in truck box
Hand Fed Coal Stove: Crane 404 with variable blower
Coal Size/Type: 404-nut, 520 rice ,anthracite for both

Re: Crane 404 - Our first coal burner

PostBy: dcrane On: Tue Jan 12, 2016 10:38 pm

windy that first pic is fantastic!!! its so hard for me to get a photo to show the blues combusting like that (what kinda camera are you using)... great shots and exactly what it supposed to look like ;)
dcrane
 
Hand Fed Coal Stove: Crane 404

Re: Crane 404 - Our first coal burner

PostBy: windyhill4.2 On: Tue Jan 12, 2016 10:54 pm

dcrane wrote:windy that first pic is fantastic!!! its so hard for me to get a photo to show the blues combusting like that (what kinda camera are you using)... great shots and exactly what it supposed to look like ;)

Thanks,dcrane.It's a Canon PowerShot A3000 & I only know the basics of operating it,it does take good pics even tho we don't know what we are doing much of the time. :)
windyhill4.2
 
Stoker Coal Boiler: 1960 EFM520 installed in truck box
Hand Fed Coal Stove: Crane 404 with variable blower
Coal Size/Type: 404-nut, 520 rice ,anthracite for both

Re: Crane 404 - Our first coal burner

PostBy: ddahlgren On: Sun Feb 14, 2016 3:22 am

Wow -4 now and a low today of -8 high is supposed to be 12. Running 550 w/blower and house 72 bedroom 66 but that is fine too. Later today when it dips to -8 will no doubt crank it harder. Forecast for 50's Tuesday go figure. The 404 sure is going though a bunch of coal for a 550 stove top 20 lbs. in 6 -7 hours.

This summer I need to dream up some rotating grates for this thing. The hands and knees clearing from below is getting very old even though only my second year with it. I think my biggest problem is a lot of bridging of the ash. When raking from below the poker can go un a couple of inches and no ash or coal once initial ash is cleared. I end up with a couple rounds of add coal shake grates rake grates and poke down from the top that seems to break up the bridging.
ddahlgren
 
Hand Fed Coal Stove: Crane 404

Re: Crane 404 - Our first coal burner

PostBy: windyhill4.2 On: Sun Feb 14, 2016 8:35 am

2* yesterday a/m with LOTS of wind all day into last nite,this a/m 2*,breezy,sunny
404 is on 12 hr tending,this a/m it was at 500*,we had it running at 550* - 600* thru this brutal cold
I shake till I see a bit of light in the pan,then poke & slice from BELOW only,i do not poke.prod or mess with the top,
I usually just refill the firepot & walk away,the air exchanger will keep the temp in the house just fine from the EFM boiler
This a/m I only threw 5 shovels full in ,will add the rest I n an hour or so.
The ash pan gets full with this routine.

If this stove was our only heat ,i would have to fuss more with it to keep the temps maxed.

This stove can never be our main heat thru this cold,it ain't big enough ! :)
windyhill4.2
 
Stoker Coal Boiler: 1960 EFM520 installed in truck box
Hand Fed Coal Stove: Crane 404 with variable blower
Coal Size/Type: 404-nut, 520 rice ,anthracite for both