Crane 404 - Our first coal burner

Re: Crane 404 - Our first coal burner

PostBy: dcrane On: Sun Jun 15, 2014 6:46 pm

I would probably opt for a duct fan instead of using the stove blower (they are cheap), but if you do wish to use the blower and dont need the attaching plate...i would just screw the attaching plate back on the stove for safe keeping. If your not using a blower on the stove you do not need to worry about blocking that rear square opening the blower mounts to.
dcrane
 
Hand Fed Coal Stove: Crane 404

Re: Crane 404 - Our first coal burner

PostBy: windyhill4.2 On: Mon Oct 13, 2014 4:11 pm

We set the Crane 404 in our living room, minus every piece we could take off of it to make it lighter so my son & i could carry it. I am looking at replacing the broken center piece of glass & wondering why are gaskets & the strap used to hold the glass in place ,could i just silicone the glass to the door instead ?.. or does the glass need to float on this stove ? Seems that if the silicone would work it would eliminate the breakage problem & the screws & the screw hole thread problem . With silicone i was thinking a thick bead to set the glass on which would allow the glass to wiggle if it wanted to & yet stay in place. We want to get it hooked up & ready but probably not fire up for another 2 weeks if forecast stays as it is.
windyhill4.2
 
Stoker Coal Boiler: 1960 EFM520 installed in truck box
Hand Fed Coal Stove: Crane 404 with variable blower
Coal Size/Type: 404-nut, 520 rice ,anthracite for both

Re: Crane 404 - Our first coal burner

PostBy: dcrane On: Mon Oct 13, 2014 10:06 pm

I don't like the idea, the stink, the insecurity of the glass flopping over at 2 am when it fails, etc... I'm not sure what the breakage problem is ( silicon won't help that unless your strictly speaking about braking glass upon install and that's never done twice after you learned your lesson the first time). :crazy: (I've listed some tips for this in previous crane threads) ... Please only lightly snug all screws evenly, do not tighten one all the way then next one all the way, etc.... Again, your just holing the ceramic glass in place (NOT squeezing it down).... If your placing to pressure on the glass even if you don't brake it upon install, you will inevitably cause the brake when you slam the door inadvertently.

I've heard of furnace cement used on some applications of glass/mica/ etc. but even with that their is always a bracket as well.
dcrane
 
Hand Fed Coal Stove: Crane 404

Re: Crane 404 - Our first coal burner

PostBy: windyhill4.2 On: Mon Oct 13, 2014 10:21 pm

Thanks much ,dcrane. I did read some on the glass install on one thread,does gasket get put on the metal brackets too or does the metal go directly against the glass ? I know that the gasket goes on the door all around the glass,just wasn't sure on the brackets.
windyhill4.2
 
Stoker Coal Boiler: 1960 EFM520 installed in truck box
Hand Fed Coal Stove: Crane 404 with variable blower
Coal Size/Type: 404-nut, 520 rice ,anthracite for both

Re: Crane 404 - Our first coal burner

PostBy: windyhill4.2 On: Sat Oct 18, 2014 9:54 pm

Picked up 1 pallet,= 1 ton of nut coal today for the 404,we won't be firing it yet as the EFM 520 coal boiler can handle the chilly days on its own.When the cold sets in we will be happy to have the radiant heat from the 404 in our concrete slab living room.
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1 ton of nut coal stacked in our boiler box waiting for cold weather ,this is to be used in the Crane 404 in our house
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windyhill4.2
 
Stoker Coal Boiler: 1960 EFM520 installed in truck box
Hand Fed Coal Stove: Crane 404 with variable blower
Coal Size/Type: 404-nut, 520 rice ,anthracite for both

Re: Crane 404 - Our first coal burner

PostBy: dcrane On: Sat Oct 18, 2014 10:09 pm

Yes, the brackets will contact the glass gasket in various points of contact.

Glad to see someone is ready for the season ...because it surly am not LOL I wanted to do so many things and simply couldn't (one of which was have some 404 fire pots made (I need one and I know at least 4 others who need one) .... ARGGG theirs always next season I guess.
dcrane
 
Hand Fed Coal Stove: Crane 404

Re: Crane 404 - Our first coal burner

PostBy: windyhill4.2 On: Sat Oct 18, 2014 10:17 pm

I wouldn't say that we are totally ready yet.We need to hook up the pipe to the Crane, need to find a place to buy 1 glass to replace the broken 1,the local ace hardware does not cut ceramic glass.
windyhill4.2
 
Stoker Coal Boiler: 1960 EFM520 installed in truck box
Hand Fed Coal Stove: Crane 404 with variable blower
Coal Size/Type: 404-nut, 520 rice ,anthracite for both