samhill wrote:Well CNB & Flyer, you both lead me to believe it's OK & well worth the lives & incurred debt to attack & occupy a sovereign nation in order to keep the price of oil down. Before all this crap the price was at least semi stable, until the speculators started big time. Every time there was some unrest in any OPEC nations the speculators soon learned there was money to be had. Not to forget that it was a former Pres. that set a withdraw date & we were told by Iraq that we weren't needed or wanted unless under their terms. Do either of you have anybody with their lives on the line in your families? Flyer, isn't going around the globe flexing your military might being a bully? These countries have been fighting themselves & each other darn near forever, why did we go in & give them a common enemy? Do you really think American lives are worth it to keep oil under a certain price? If so I'm done with you fools.
samhill wrote:So then CNB, your willing to have others die for the price of oil while Flyer is willing to pay more, there is a lot to be learned right there. Before the wars Iraq was producing oil, during the war Iraq was still producing, less but some. After whoever takes control & the smoke clears guess what, Iraq will once again be producing oil. Russia learned in Afghanistan but we didn't learn from that so now we fight our old allies from when Russia was there. Iraq had a vile dictator who had put a contract on Bush1 so now we kill him (the coward we found hiding in a hole) & we replace him with another vile dictator & did we really expect change?
samhill wrote:First Flyer it wasn't our business to invade Iraq, what some dictator does to his or her own people may be sad & unjust but it's their business. And before its said that well somebodies got to do it & we are a world power, where does it start & stop, so far it only seems to be where we can gain money, other type wealth or power there is evil all over the place but if they have nothing the world powers have a blind eye.
samhill wrote:Sorry Jpete, I almost forgot you. No, the America I grew up in was always the leader in innovative technology of most things, we used to produce & export rather than import products made to our specs, our American owned job creators farmed out & sold out to others. It isn't cheap crap coming from overseas it's made to spec for the lowest price possible which =s highest profit possible.