Class warfare. Are the superrich really evil ?

Class warfare. Are the superrich really evil ?

PostBy: Sunny Boy On: Thu Jun 19, 2014 9:19 am

I find this article interesting about the liberal superrich. You know, the guys who say they support higher taxes on the rich, as long as it's not them.

I find it interesting in many respects about what it admits about the superrich libs to make it's point of the story.

It admits to superrich Dems "funneling" over a half a billion dollars to lib causes in the past ten years. Yet they wet their pants over mention of the Koch brothers. Who it just so happens that IRS records show, donate quite a bit to Dems too.

Also, it admits about the Teacher's Union what many conservatives have been complaining about for decades. A quote from the article,
".......... Don't just listen to the judge on this, though. Heed the words of Nick Hanauer, a Seattle-based venture capitalist and school reform advocate, who wrote in a 2012 email that subsequently became public: "It is impossible to escape the painful reality that we Democrats are now on the wrong side of every education reform issue. … There can be no doubt in any reasonable person's mind that the leadership of our party and most of its elected members are stooges for the teachers union, the ring leaders in all this nonsense." ..........."

Wow, imagine - a big wealthy lib admitting that.

It also mentions about some of their Silicon Valley and Wall Street donators drifting away. Hold on, I thought the libs said Wall Street is all just greedy Conservatives? You mean there's greedy libs there too ?

And, "Rob McKay, heir to the Taco Bell fortune". Isn't that one of those big, evil corporations that pays such low wages too?

A lot of interesting bits showing the hypocrisy of the lib supporters.

So much for the lib class warfare tactic.

Paul
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Re: Class warfare. Are the superrich really evil ?

PostBy: Sunny Boy On: Thu Jun 19, 2014 9:37 am

Sorry lost the link and found it again. Here's the story.

http://news.yahoo.com/rich-democrats-go ... ZJUDQ0MF8x

A web search for it turned up a surprising number of other articles about superrich and lib donations.

Paul
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Re: Class warfare. Are the superrich really evil ?

PostBy: samhill On: Thu Jun 19, 2014 5:38 pm

McKay,no longer has anything to do with Taco Bell & maybe never did except inherit money from it.
http://www.commondreams.org/headlines02/0714-05.htm
Pretty much seems to me that he's doing good with some of that money. Not saying there aren't more out there in both parties but just check a bit before bad mouthing. ;)
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Re: Class warfare. Are the superrich really evil ?

PostBy: Sunny Boy On: Thu Jun 19, 2014 6:37 pm

Maybe you should try reading it again and then tell me exactly where I "bad mouthed" McKay ?

I was talking about Taco Bell.

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Re: Class warfare. Are the superrich really evil ?

PostBy: scalabro On: Thu Jun 19, 2014 6:45 pm

Paul,

Please excuse Sam, he may have missed a Zanax.

By the way, thanks for all the info you post.

Cheers,
Scott
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Re: Class warfare. Are the superrich really evil ?

PostBy: samhill On: Thu Jun 19, 2014 7:27 pm

Sounded to me that you were bad mouthing the heir to the Taco Bell fortune as they are one of the ones that pay min. wage. I could be wrong, maybe someone else typed that.
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Re: Class warfare. Are the superrich really evil ?

PostBy: Sunny Boy On: Thu Jun 19, 2014 7:57 pm

You "heard" what you wanted, not what I wrote. On top of that, once again, you missed the whole point of the post, while you were jumping to another wrong conclusion.

And yeah, someone else wrote it. You didn't bother to notice there were quotation marks in front of Rob McKay's name. If you had bothered to read the article CAREFULLY you'd see that line between the quotation marks is from the article.

Regardless, my comment used the word "evil corporations" - I said nothing about McKay.

Now, who needs to check before bad mouthing ?

Paul
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Re: Class warfare. Are the superrich really evil ?

PostBy: jpete On: Thu Jun 19, 2014 9:25 pm

Some of the "super rich" are "evil", as well as some poor people.

http://capitalismmagazine.com/2002/08/f ... ey-speech/

“So you think that money is the root of all evil?” said Francisco d’Anconia. “Have you ever asked what is the root of money? Money is a tool of exchange, which can’t exist unless there are goods produced and men able to produce them. Money is the material shape of the principle that men who wish to deal with one another must deal by trade and give value for value. Money is not the tool of the moochers, who claim your product by tears, or of the looters, who take it from you by force. Money is made possible only by the men who produce. Is this what you consider evil?
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Re: Class warfare. Are the superrich really evil ?

PostBy: samhill On: Thu Jun 19, 2014 9:53 pm

Not me SB, I call it like I see it, you never have a problem bad mouthing me so it's a give & take thing. I don't think any one wealth class has to do with evil, as Jpete said some people are just plain evil. You don't seem to have a problem with giving the 1% or whatever % a free ride but I do that's just the way things are. There was a war on drugs & then there were more drugs than ever so just maybe now they want a war on the poor so there will be more than ever. I guess if you have a spot near the top it's great but there aren't too many seats there. I'm still waiting to see some of these jobs that were created with the tax cuts for the creators, all it did was create more wealth for them.
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Re: Class warfare. Are the superrich really evil ?

PostBy: Flyer5 On: Thu Jun 19, 2014 10:04 pm

samhill wrote:Not me SB, I call it like I see it, you never have a problem bad mouthing me so it's a give & take thing. I don't think any one wealth class has to do with evil, as Jpete said some people are just plain evil. You don't seem to have a problem with giving the 1% or whatever % a free ride but I do that's just the way things are. There was a war on drugs & then there were more drugs than ever so just maybe now they want a war on the poor so there will be more than ever. I guess if you have a spot near the top it's great but there aren't too many seats there. I'm still waiting to see some of these jobs that were created with the tax cuts for the creators, all it did was create more wealth for them.



I'm more tired of seeing the 47% get a free ride. The few that really need it really get screwed in the end. The 1% can do as they are doing.
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Re: Class warfare. Are the superrich really evil ?

PostBy: Sunny Boy On: Fri Jun 20, 2014 5:21 am

samhill wrote:Not me SB, I call it like I see it, ..........


Doesn't mean your right.

I, and others, call you on it when we know your wrong. Just like you call us on things when you think we're wrong.

Your inability, or not wanting, to see what others are trying to point out to you because you jumped to wrong conclusions, does not always constitute "bad mouthing" just because you don't like what someone else says.

Such as, your still trying to justify saying that I bad mouthed Rob McKay. But, you haven't proved that point. As I said I was talking about Corporations, you tried to make it into me "bad mouthing" Rob McKay and turned it into your version of "bad mouthing" me.

Don't like it, don't dish it.

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Re: Class warfare. Are the superrich really evil ?

PostBy: samhill On: Fri Jun 20, 2014 7:24 am

No SB you are the one that tied McKay with a (what you call evil corp.)not me. Just your use of you Using you & others know your right & I have the nerve to say I think you are wrong says it all.
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Re: Class warfare. Are the superrich really evil ?

PostBy: samhill On: Fri Jun 20, 2014 7:26 am

Flyer would you kindly post a breakdown of where you get that 47% from, besides Romney's famous flub. Just who are included in 47% that are riding for free?
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Re: Class warfare. Are the superrich really evil ?

PostBy: Flyer5 On: Fri Jun 20, 2014 7:35 am

samhill wrote:Flyer would you kindly post a breakdown of where you get that 47% from, besides Romney's famous flub. Just who are included in 47% that are riding for free?



Nah! I have better things to do. If you can't understand the context in which I wrote it oh well. Maybe it 42% or maybe now its 60% IDGAF.
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Re: Class warfare. Are the superrich really evil ?

PostBy: ONEDOLLAR On: Fri Jun 20, 2014 8:01 am

samhill wrote:Flyer would you kindly post a breakdown of where you get that 47% from, besides Romney's famous flub. Just who are included in 47% that are riding for free?


Sam, Perhaps this will help...

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/fact-checki ... t-comment/
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