Glenwood #8 and Ernest Shackelton

Re: Glenwood #8 and Ernest Shackelton

PostBy: Pancho On: Mon Jul 14, 2014 9:23 pm

coalnewbie wrote:The 17th is when it gets to Rochester MA at Wilsons, I hope. Then according to the condition depends what we do from there. When it gets home pics I promise.


You are in the best of hands. He'll get it sorted out whatever shape it's in.

Are you going to have him do a re-nickel on it?.
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Baseburners & Antiques: Glenwood No. 8
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Re: Glenwood #8 and Ernest Shackelton

PostBy: coalnewbie On: Tue Jul 15, 2014 2:37 am

No renickel, this is a worker bee. I am wondering about getting a set of spare internals but if Wilson advises me he could replace any warped parts then I would like to avoid that expense too.
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Re: Glenwood #8 and Ernest Shackelton

PostBy: Pancho On: Tue Jul 15, 2014 6:44 pm

coalnewbie wrote:No renickel, this is a worker bee. I am wondering about getting a set of spare internals but if Wilson advises me he could replace any warped parts then I would like to avoid that expense too.


Good call. I was going to nickel mine...but the patina has grown on me.....that and the wife said "I like it the way it is".

I asked Wilson about spares and he said the parts are readily available and that unless it's over fired, you shouldn't need spares. But I do believe he has either the parts or the patterns.

I may still purchase a set of grates from him at some point just to have on hand.
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Re: Glenwood #8 and Ernest Shackelton

PostBy: coalnewbie On: Tue Jul 15, 2014 8:48 pm

Thurday is *8 pickup day and the weather looks fine. How can I task a satellite to follow Wilsons truck. :lol: I would use a where is my Iphone app but I think that is imposing. Shame that I did not put my dogs GPS in this truck from tagg.com... Too late now. It's fingernail biting time.
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Re: Glenwood #8 and Ernest Shackelton

PostBy: Pancho On: Tue Jul 15, 2014 9:28 pm

coalnewbie wrote:Thurday is *8 pickup day and the weather looks fine. How can I task a satellite to follow Wilsons truck. :lol: I would use a where is my Iphone app but I think that is imposing. Shame that I did not put my dogs GPS in this truck from tagg.com... Too late now. It's fingernail biting time.


Call the NSA.....I'm sure they'll have all the information about the trip. :)

BTW....3 hunnert on the barrel and 170 on the stack. Just putterin' along with some lump charcoal (I'd post pics but due to the flash, it doesn't even look like it's burning :( ).
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Re: Glenwood #8 and Ernest Shackelton

PostBy: Sunny Boy On: Wed Jul 16, 2014 2:57 am

Poncho,

Turn off the flash ! :roll: Or, at least show us what the "beast" looks like now. . . . pretty please ? Your avatar is a bit too small to be able to appreciate such a beast. :D

300 barrel and 175 stack - is that in indirect mode ? From what Glenwood base heater numbers have been posted on here in the past, I seem to remember hearing temp number ratios that are closer to 5:1 in cold weather. I should think that it would be at least more than 2:1 in warm weather ?

Do you have an mpd in the stack ,..... and if so what angle is it at with those temps ?

Are you going to hook up a mano gauge ?

Paul
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Re: Glenwood #8 and Ernest Shackelton

PostBy: Sunny Boy On: Wed Jul 16, 2014 3:04 am

coalnewbie wrote:Thurday is *8 pickup day and the weather looks fine. How can I task a satellite to follow Wilsons truck. :lol: I would use a where is my Iphone app but I think that is imposing. Shame that I did not put my dogs GPS in this truck from tagg.com... Too late now. It's fingernail biting time.



Steady on man - Wilson's on the job. ;)

Paul
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Re: Glenwood #8 and Ernest Shackelton

PostBy: Pancho On: Wed Jul 16, 2014 8:58 am

Sunny Boy wrote:Poncho,

Turn off the flash ! :roll: Or, at least show us what the "beast" looks like now. . . . pretty please ? Your avatar is a bit too small to be able to appreciate such a beast. :D


It's a point n' click camera....I don't think there's an option to turn off the flash. I can try to fat finger the flash though.....I'll try that tonight.

300 barrel and 175 stack - is that in indirect mode ? From what Glenwood base heater numbers have been posted on here in the past, I seem to remember hearing temp number ratios that are closer to 5:1 in cold weather. I should think that it would be at least more than 2:1 in warm weather ?


It was in indirect mode but the fire wasn't fully established. It later went to 425 on the barrel and just a smidge below two-hundy on the stack.

Do you have an mpd in the stack ,..... and if so what angle is it at with those temps ?

Are you going to hook up a mano gauge ?

Paul


I do have an mpd in the stack. The angle was approximately 45 degrees (standard stuff).
I do not plan on hooking up a mano gage but....that could change when real coal hits the grates. I have a very tall, strong drafting chimney and I have a check dampner in the outlet elbow. Wilson says with that I should be able to keep the beast from running away on a windy night.

At the low stack temps these things run at, I don't see excess draft being an issue.....it wasn't when I was burning wood and those stack temps are MUCH higher.

But again.....I'm a professional wood burner. I really don't know what the hell I'm talking about with coal. :)
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Re: Glenwood #8 and Ernest Shackelton

PostBy: Sunny Boy On: Wed Jul 16, 2014 9:17 am

A mano gauge will quickly pay for itself in coal saved by helping set the mpd at the best point. After 8 years I thought I knew how to get the best out of my range. Hooked up the mano this past winter and it saved me 1-2 pounds of coal a day on a stove that was averaging 30 pounds a day.

And it'll be interesting to see what numbers that beast can crank out when cold weather gets here ! ;)

Between yours and coalnewbie's, they should knock some of the stuffing out of those "polar vortexes". :D

Paul
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Re: Glenwood #8 and Ernest Shackelton

PostBy: Pancho On: Wed Jul 16, 2014 10:59 am

Sunny Boy wrote:A mano gauge will quickly pay for itself in coal saved by helping set the mpd at the best point. After 8 years I thought I knew how to get the best out of my range. Hooked up the mano this past winter and it saved me 1-2 pounds of coal a day on a stove that was averaging 30 pounds a day.

And it'll be interesting to see what numbers that beast can crank out when cold weather gets here ! ;)

Between yours and coalnewbie's, they should knock some of the stuffing out of those "polar vortexes". :D

Paul


I am ruling nothing out.....but right now I am just talking BS until I get real coal to set ablaze. One to two Lbs/day savings on coal is VERY substantial.

Yes, I think I will be able to kick the Freeze Mizer's arse with this heater. The sq footage of surface area has to be close to 2X my other heater....and that was a big heater.

I am NOT looking forward to winter by any means......but my trigger finger is gettin' itchy to get a real fire in the old gal.
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Baseburners & Antiques: Glenwood No. 8
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Re: Glenwood #8 and Ernest Shackelton

PostBy: Sunny Boy On: Wed Jul 16, 2014 12:58 pm

I used to run the mpd at about 45 degrees too. I was amazed at how much more I could close the mpd and keep more heat in the stove without it slowing down. Kitchen/back of the house was just as warm, but with more coal being burned completely to ash to produce that heat is where I saved on coal.

http://www.amazon.com/dp/B009PAN3C8/ref=biss_dp_t_asn

I bought two to save on shipping (it was about $25.00 each back then). The second one was for my 118, but now it will get used with the #6 replacing it .

Paul
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Re: Glenwood #8 and Ernest Shackelton

PostBy: Pancho On: Wed Jul 16, 2014 4:48 pm

Sunny Boy wrote:I used to run the mpd at about 45 degrees too. I was amazed at how much more I could close the mpd and keep more heat in the stove without it slowing down. Kitchen/back of the house was just as warm, but with more coal being burned completely to ash to produce that heat is where I saved on coal.

http://www.amazon.com/dp/B009PAN3C8/ref=biss_dp_t_asn

I bought two to save on shipping (it was about $25.00 each back then). The second one was for my 118, but now it will get used with the #6 replacing it .

Paul


$28 for a significant savings in coal seems almost like a no-brainer.
Being I've never used one or had one in my hands....how does it get it's reading?. I assume there is a probe or two that inserts into the stack??.
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Baseburners & Antiques: Glenwood No. 8
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Re: Glenwood #8 and Ernest Shackelton

PostBy: Sunny Boy On: Wed Jul 16, 2014 8:31 pm

Pancho wrote:
$28 for a significant savings in coal seems almost like a no-brainer.
Being I've never used one or had one in my hands....how does it get it's reading?. I assume there is a probe or two that inserts into the stack??.



All it is, is a very sensitive pressure, or vacuum gauge, depending on which outlet on the gauge you hook the hose to.

One end of the hose gets connected to a metal tube, or fitting in the stack, before the mpd.

With the hose connected to the "low" outlet (right hand one) it will read like a vacuum guage- the lower pressure inside the stack.

Here's more about them in this thread.
manometer install

And here's pictures of mine hooked up to my range stack.

Paul
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Re: Glenwood #8 and Ernest Shackelton

PostBy: Pancho On: Wed Jul 16, 2014 9:48 pm

Hmm...seems simple enough....though if I go with one I may use copper to spruce it up a bit. :)
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Re: Glenwood #8 and Ernest Shackelton

PostBy: Sunny Boy On: Thu Jul 17, 2014 4:29 am

Pancho wrote:Hmm...seems simple enough....though if I go with one I may use copper to spruce it up a bit. :)



In that case, then why not stainless steel tubing ? It'll be a better match to the nickel plating on the stove. :D

Paul
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