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Post by wsherrick » Fri. Oct. 17, 2014 4:59 pm

That first listing in Indiana is a Romanesque Revival. That style was reserved for the most expensive, well fitted homes. If the interior of that house has been left alone, it would be a jaw dropping sight.
These prices even though inviting is maybe indicative of the neighborhoods they are in. But you are super correct in that anything in the South or Midwest will be a third of what it is in the Northeast.


 
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Post by wsherrick » Tue. Oct. 21, 2014 7:06 pm

Believe it or not, if you have the money you can move these houses out of the ghetto they are in to a better spot. I've seen it done with very large houses.

 
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Post by scalabro » Tue. Oct. 21, 2014 8:31 pm

That house in Indiana is amazingly detailed.

All it takes is money!

Here's a good link...

http://faculty.wcas.northwestern.edu/~infocom/scn ... chool.html

And here is a house in Taconic, Connecticut I'd like to own someday. Don't know much about it but it certainly appears that it goes back a bit.

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Post by rberq » Tue. Oct. 21, 2014 9:44 pm

wsherrick wrote:Believe it or not, if you have the money you can move these houses out of the ghetto they are in to a better spot. I've seen it done with very large houses.
Right. A large antique colonial here was moved several miles and saved from highway construction. I'm sure it is better off now because it is on an all-new foundation instead of the old field stone and dirt floor. Must have cost a fortune to move, but less than to buy a comparable house already in a good location.

 
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Post by DePippo79 » Fri. Oct. 24, 2014 4:31 am

I'll need to own a railroad before I can even think about moving houses. I wouldn't want to live in South Bend either. I was just making a point. There's alot of nice old homes in Lawrence, Ma where I grew up, but there's no way in hell I was staying. I read somewhere that Indiana has alot of Victorian homes. Wish I could restore old houses and resell them, but with the housing market the way it is in New England you need alot of capital to do that. Enter slumlords and investors. Then you have the DIY shows that cater to the yuppies taking sledgehammers to original Victorian tiled fireplaces, old houses that haven't been molested are getting rare. I still think This Old House is a respectable DIY show. I enjoyed the 2013 Arlington House (Italianate) project. Anyway I start vacation Monday and have a few roadtrips with Dad planned. I'm hoping I can find some cool stuff for this thread. Matt

 
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Post by DePippo79 » Fri. Oct. 24, 2014 4:40 am

Every now and then a house will pop up on the endangered properties list as free if you move it. I'll add it's been out with the old in with the new all throughout history, but I just can't grasp that yet. Fire hasn't been kind to historic structures either. Hampton Beach alone has had numerous devastating fires. Whole blocks wiped out. Matt

 
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Post by windyhill4.2 » Fri. Oct. 24, 2014 6:43 am

My wife & I will never understand the concept of if it is an old building just tear it down & build new . ?????????????? We would love to place an old Victorian on our property in place of the trailer & additions. We love old houses period,whether Victorian or just a farm house. My wife is not too keen tho on boxy houses & Victorian are sure far from that.Less than 1/2 mile from us there were 2 old farm houses that the renters were moved out so that the houses could be destroyed to make way for ...... 1 old house to beer/soda distributor ,1 old house & old bank barn for Dollar store. IIRC they both were torn down in a manner that most things could be salvaged & reused ,but we would have loved to have moved house & barn to our property but $$$$$$$$$$ stands in the way so often.


 
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Post by DePippo79 » Sat. Oct. 25, 2014 12:12 am

Windy, I totally agree with you. Unfortunately up my way building mini cities is the new wave in building. Building overpriced condo's/apartments and overpriced retail stores underneath. Only benefit I see is maybe it will stop the spread of the yuppie liberals to the country. Didn't mean to mention politics, but I couldn't resist. Every now and then you'll here about people moving to close to a operating farm and then complaining about the smell. Kind of like people who buy houses next to a active railroad. Anyway I'm going to post a This Old House video. There redoing a Italianate house and the owners are respecting the soul of the house. To my delight and Richard's (plumbing contractor) there keeping the radiators. Mean reason for posting is because there's a tour of the Morse Libby Mansion in Portland, Me. If you like true craftsmanship in wood you'll want to watch. Mansion starts at minute 11:45. Enjoy Matt.

 
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Post by CapeCoaler » Sat. Oct. 25, 2014 3:57 pm

Got the camps on MV in the OB...
http://www.mvcma.org/history/then-now/
Fall is the time to visit...
High speed ferry from Hyannis right to OB...

 
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Post by DePippo79 » Sun. Oct. 26, 2014 5:05 am

http://www.realtor.com/realestateandhomes-detail/ ... 06?row=110
Got a pm from a member who liked the old house listings so here's another. The price is awesome for the area, but the property taxes are ridiculous. It's Lowell not Boston. Lowell is a okay city, but not worth $9000.00. Too bad Lawrence didn't follow Lowell's lead. Matt
Capecoaler cool link.

Maybe I should write a letter to the hacks on the DIY Channel and show them how a old house reno/restoration should be done.

 
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Post by wsherrick » Mon. Oct. 27, 2014 1:55 am

DePippo79 wrote:http://www.realtor.com/realestateandhomes-detail/ ... 06?row=110
Got a pm from a member who liked the old house listings so here's another. The price is awesome for the area, but the property taxes are ridiculous. It's Lowell not Boston. Lowell is a okay city, but not worth $9000.00. Too bad Lawrence didn't follow Lowell's lead. Matt
Capecoaler cool link.

Maybe I should write a letter to the hacks on the DIY Channel and show them how a old house reno/restoration should be done.
This looks like a Barber House. George Barber, one of the pioneers of mail order houses and books of designs and floorplans which could be ordered.
Barber was from Knoxville and I when I lived there we would drive around trying to find the surviving Barber Houses.

 
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Post by wsherrick » Mon. Oct. 27, 2014 2:05 am

Here are some Barber Houses. They were built all over the Nation. The entire house was shipped in boxcars to be assembled when it arrived.

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High style Barber House. Queen Anne style.

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staircase in above house. Barber houses had lavish mill work and stained glass in them.

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Page out of a Barber House catalog. Front elevation and floor plan

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Post by rberq » Mon. Oct. 27, 2014 4:22 pm

wsherrick wrote:George Barber, one of the pioneers of mail order houses and books of designs and floorplans which could be ordered.
Barber was from Knoxville and I when I lived there we would drive around trying to find the surviving Barber Houses.
You can find his house-plan catalogs on the Internet. I don't know if you can still get detailed plans -- haven't looked yet. Even his simpler houses are a heck of a lot more artistic than a modern ranch. Many he estimates can be built for $1 to $2 per square foot, including a kitchen with sink and pump, and often a bathroom as well. :!:

 
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Post by scalabro » Mon. Oct. 27, 2014 4:59 pm

Ok, don't laugh.....:)

If I was going to build a Second Empire, it would be the Munsters house. That house is wicked cool. Complete with all the interior acutrimond, and the "Munster Koach" & ""Dragula"

I'm serious.

:eek2:

 
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Post by wsherrick » Mon. Oct. 27, 2014 5:49 pm

scalabro wrote:Ok, don't laugh.....:)

If I was going to build a Second Empire, it would be the Munsters house. That house is wicked cool. Complete with all the interior acutrimond, and the "Munster Koach" & ""Dragula"

I'm serious.

:eek2:
I love Second Empire and hate the 60's in which all of the beautiful architecture of the past was to be made into haunted houses or torn down.
Second Empire is a high style. It is often blended with Italianate fenestration and trim work. If one wanted to build a new version of a true Victorian Style, Second Empire would be my choice. It would be a lot more affordable than an elaborate Queen Anne.


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