Ford 801 Powermaster

Re: Ford 801 Powermaster

PostBy: Ironminer On: Fri Mar 06, 2015 10:33 pm

Beautiful Work!
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Re: Ford 801 Powermaster

PostBy: Rob R. On: Sun Jun 26, 2016 9:55 am

First breakdown with the 801. Started it up and it blew out a tremendous cloud of blue smoke. Noticeable amount of oil running down the block . . . I'm thinking head gasket, but won't know until it gets in the shop.
Rob R.
 
Stoker Coal Boiler: EFM DF520
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Re: Ford 801 Powermaster

PostBy: SWPaDon On: Sun Jun 26, 2016 10:42 am

Ouch, sorry to hear about that. Let us know what they find.
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Re: Ford 801 Powermaster

PostBy: Sting On: Mon Jun 27, 2016 10:04 pm

Didi it simply backfire and blow the oil out of the air cleaner?

Kind Regards
Sting
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Re: Ford 801 Powermaster

PostBy: gaw On: Mon Jun 27, 2016 11:16 pm

Rob R. wrote:First breakdown with the 801. Started it up and it blew out a tremendous cloud of blue smoke. Noticeable amount of oil running down the block . . . I'm thinking head gasket, but won't know until it gets in the shop.

:oops2:
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Re: Ford 801 Powermaster

PostBy: Rob R. On: Tue Jun 28, 2016 5:52 am

Sting wrote:Didi it simply backfire and blow the oil out of the air cleaner?

Kind Regards
Sting


I don't think so, but that is simple to check. thanks.
Rob R.
 
Stoker Coal Boiler: EFM DF520
Hand Fed Coal Stove: Hitzer 50-93
Coal Size/Type: Lehigh Rice
Other Heating: Dad's 1953 EFM Highboy

Re: Ford 801 Powermaster

PostBy: Rob R. On: Sat Jul 09, 2016 7:13 am

Finally got a chance to clean things up and take a closer look. Turned out to be a very simple problem. The fitting on the bottom of the fuel tank is slowly leaking, and the fuel was dripping on the valve cover and down the exhaust manifold and engine block. The years of oil and grease being dissolved initially made it look like oil, and there is enough fuel getting inside the exhaust manifold to make it smoke a lot when the engine is started.

I was hoping that cycling the fuel shut off between off and on a few times would cure the leak, but no luck...it is leaking right through the threads on the shutoff. New one is $30 and in the mail.
Rob R.
 
Stoker Coal Boiler: EFM DF520
Hand Fed Coal Stove: Hitzer 50-93
Coal Size/Type: Lehigh Rice
Other Heating: Dad's 1953 EFM Highboy

Re: Ford 801 Powermaster

PostBy: cabinover On: Sat Jul 09, 2016 7:25 am

Nice and inexpensive repair. I don't usually get that lucky when stuff breaks around here.
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Re: Ford 801 Powermaster

PostBy: SWPaDon On: Sat Jul 09, 2016 7:28 am

Glad to hear it wasn't an engine problem.
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Re: Ford 801 Powermaster

PostBy: freetown fred On: Sat Jul 09, 2016 8:06 am

nice Rob
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Re: Ford 801 Powermaster

PostBy: cArNaGe On: Sat Jul 09, 2016 7:50 pm

Rob R. wrote: New one is $30 and in the mail.


The new one might leak also. I've changed mine twice and it still seeps gas through the threads.
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Re: Ford 801 Powermaster

PostBy: Rob R. On: Sat Jul 09, 2016 8:12 pm

If it does I will bust out the JB weld.
Rob R.
 
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Other Heating: Dad's 1953 EFM Highboy

Re: Ford 801 Powermaster

PostBy: freetown fred On: Sun Jul 10, 2016 6:45 am

Yep, that worked for my WD 45! :)
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Re: Ford 801 Powermaster

PostBy: cabinover On: Sun Jul 10, 2016 3:50 pm

freetown fred wrote:Yep, that worked for my WD 45! :)


Had one of them once, what a pulling machine compared to my neighbor's 9N. Hitched him to a rather large Pine tree one day to move and he couldn't steer. The WD just grunted a little and off it went, nose down.
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Re: Ford 801 Powermaster

PostBy: jubileejerry On: Sun Jul 10, 2016 11:29 pm

Rob R. wrote:Finally got a chance to clean things up and take a closer look. Turned out to be a very simple problem. The fitting on the bottom of the fuel tank is slowly leaking, and the fuel was dripping on the valve cover and down the exhaust manifold and engine block. The years of oil and grease being dissolved initially made it look like oil, and there is enough fuel getting inside the exhaust manifold to make it smoke a lot when the engine is started.

I was hoping that cycling the fuel shut off between off and on a few times would cure the leak, but no luck...it is leaking right through the threads on the shutoff. New one is $30 and in the mail.


There are two versions of that shut off, the original Zenith/Bendix one that costs a little more, and the $30 import copy. I stopped stocking that one because of poor quality and lots of leakers. Sometimes, though, you can fix an old leaker if you're careful. There's a little aluminum rivet in the body of the part that stops the shutoff screw from coming all the way out. A very sharp chisel and a tiny hammer can sometimes get the rivet out by getting under its head with the chisel and working around it with the little hammer. If you succeed in getting the rivet to move, and get it out, you can unscrew the shutoff and replace the o-ring in there. That will usually fix it for a long time. Just remember to put the little rivet back in. Jerry
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