Gun Thread

Here's a link to the FBI's Hogans Alley of today. (DEA agents use it too) Looks like alot of fun~!
(Oh man.....They even have a private company that provides role player actors to confront new agents!! A little more realistic than our paper targets on rails that I mentioned in my story above......... What fun!!!)

http://www.fbi.gov/page2/jan05/hogan013105.htm
http://www.fbi.gov/hq/td/academy/pau/pau.htm



Compare the crappy old FBI badge (seen at the above site) to the nice DEA badge!!

http://www.usdoj.gov/dea/index.htm

speaking of guns, I shot my .22 today at a grouse. It's in the fridge now Such a pretty curious bird, he was eating the tiny buds off the shrubs.

Baked with apples and Rum sauce!

BK

Under a proposal from the Connecticut State Police ( who are Republican Govenor worships) they want to "register" all long guns and make 14 day waiting periods even for citizens who have CCW or Hunting permits.

My big question is why? Since when do criminals go through a permitting process?

Why do politicians and the like, seem to always want to regulate the Law abiding citizens? The taxes paid on firearms and ammunition, the taxes and fees for hunting are all sources of revenue and help with the states coffers, leave us the hell alone and maybe use law enforcement to get the thugs and put them AWAY! My bad, it's too easy to set-up a speed trap to arrest speeders instead, hell I got pinched for doing 36 mph in a 35 mph zone ( ticket, $150.00). I successfully beat that rap, but lost a days pay doing so.

Ed.A wrote:My big question is why?

I would think so they know where to go when they start taking them away from us.

If I'm not mistaken, All states require a background check to buy a gun so they already know where to go to get their guns back . No waiting period in NY except 1/2 hour to call in your info and see if your not a known lunatic. Gun shows are different, just cash and carry, thanks "Bob" and it seems everyone is named "Bob"

e.alleg wrote: Gun shows are different, just cash and carry, thanks "Bob" and it seems everyone is named "Bob"

Gun Shows I have attended in Pa require dealer to do a backround check on site (cell phone). Private sales must still be thru an FFL dealer .

coalstoves wrote:Gun Shows I have attended in Pa require dealer to do a backround check on site (cell phone). Private sales must still be thru an FFL dealer .

I know I need an FFl to do buys in Ct as well.

My question "WHY?" was more rhetorical, but thanks for the input.

I understand a 14 day wait period was inacted for people who don't have a Handgun Permit or Hunting License, but if you have one or the other, then I say you prolly don't have to go out to a Gun store to take out a vendetta, you in most likelyhood have what you need in your Gun cabinet to carry out any activity anyhow! Instant back ground checking has been in place for years, there is absolutely no reason to make people who are in the system wait 14 days, it's only an inconvieint measure to harass law abiding gun owners and to assuage the Anti-gun crowd.

coalstoves wrote:

e.alleg wrote: Gun shows are different, just cash and carry, thanks "Bob" and it seems everyone is named "Bob"

Gun Shows I have attended in Pa require dealer to do a backround check on site (cell phone). Private sales must still be thru an FFL dealer .

The instant background check was Part of the brady bill which was Past in 1993 all States had 5 years to come up with some type of a instant check system in 1998 Pa state Police set there's up Before 1993 you had a 3 day wait for handguns only Long guns did not have a waiting period you only had to fill out a 4473 The only time you have to go threw a FFL dealer for a Private sale is for a handgun Trasfer from one Person to the next the buyer must have a instant check dunn all Private long guns sales do not have to go threw a FFL dealer In Pa It is against The Pa State Constitution to hold any Firearm records more then 30 days all records must be destroyed no record Keeping The background check is for the Person Not the Firearm it is also against the Federal Constitution aswell no Firearms Record keeping on law Abiding Citizens Do they hold up to that who knows But I know 2 years ago the State & Feds went after the Pa State Police for doing that very samething keeping Firearm Records for more then 30 days

My small collection has changed some but I currently own:
Remington 870 12ga
Baikal 12ga side x side
Norico 12ga (cheap gun kept in the barn for unexpected critter control)
H&R 12ga single shot
Savage .22mag rifle
Marlin .357mag lever action
Marlin 30-30 lever action
Howa .223 bolt action
AR-15 5.56/.223
Tuarus .357mag revolver
Rossi .357mag revolver (shorty for concealed carry)
FN .40 semi-auto (for concealed carry)
and a valid CCW permit.

John

Wood'nCoal wrote:

Wow...Nice weapon! Could have used that in my DEA days. Amazing how they cut the recoil down as most shotguns kick like a mule. What show was that from? (I've seen it & like it but I don't like the star (claims to be an ex Navy Seal) as he is always melodramtic)
I like the fat gun expert ( Dr. William Atwater) who appears on alot of these shows, always wears white gloves when handling a weapon & was a Vietnam Marine squad leader. He was doing a segment on firing the old M-14 on full auto & pointing at how badly the barrel tended to climb skyward with each shot. He said something like: "You may hit your target with the first round.....The second round will be high & to the right.......& anything after that, ........you are basicaly firing an anti-aircraft weapon!! (ROFL---great line!!)

I would love to have drum mag capability for my 11-87! Maybe with a 20 rd drum Id be able to get more than 1 goose at a time. I agree with you on the melodramatic host and the chubby gun expert...hes awesome, but I wouldnt invite him to my birthday party because he'd tell me how dirty all my guns were. I hadnt seen that spot on the aa12 before. Im not really a Blackwater fan(not into civilian mercenaries running amuck all over the world) I wonder whos paying for the developement of that shotgun? If its the tax payers I would like to borrow one for the weekend Im allready scetching out how Im gonna make a fin stabilized projectile at work tomorrow. Hey 69drag have you ever had trigger trouble on that Marlin 357? I have the 44 mag leveraction and had the trigger flop happen 2 times now. I know there are aftermarket triggers out there that claim to eliminate it but I dont want to put a 70+ dollar trigger in a gun I only piad 225 for. Jim

Howdy cheapheat. I changed the trigger in the Marlin .357 but only because it was kinda stiff. I think the pull measured aound 7 lbs. I put in a trigger from Wild West Guns and now its at 3lbs. I'd like to have a .44mag lever for the collection someday. The ammo is too expensive to shoot often but I'd like to have one anyway.

John