Gun Thread

We will need that auto shotgun in Korea to kill the hords of Red chinese that will come swarming down from the north.

The only time you really need a gun, you REALLY need it.

acesover wrote:We will need that auto shotgun in Korea to kill the hords of Red chinese that will come swarming down from the north.

You won't have enough ammo.

Boy, I sure hope whoever gets into the white house this time is too busy to get at our guns.
This is the last remaing vestige of real America, the right to own firearms, the right to the tools of self-defense and the tools of liberation from opression.

Watch the money trail, see who is supporting the democrats in the primary. All are against our basic rights. they think they know better what's good for each and every one of us. THis probably applies to the republicans too, only they have different priorities.

In CA, you now have to give up your fingerprints to renew your driver's license. CA is full of cattle, my sister-in-law lives there, she thinks it's OK. Tells me it will help catch child molesters. I asked her if she's a child molester, and she said no.

Now I'm confused, how will the *motor vehicle* department catch a child molester using her fingerprints?

Soon we will have that here in NY. Fingerprinting for your driver's license is coming.
We're already fingerprinted before we can have a concealed carry permit (the only way to legally posess any handgun).
Without a permit of his own, it is not even legal for your husband to HOLD your gun at the range while you reload a magazine.

Then there will be a national ID card, then gun registration will be included in the national ID, and then they will come and take whatever they know we have. It's not paranoid, it's coming. People in England and Australia never thought it would happen to them, but it has. Now in England you can't even defend yourself in your own home with a big stick without facing criminal prosecution!

We need a third party, but our obnoxious TV and newspapers refuse to give them coverage. They don't have the support of millionaires to buy it either. Ron Paul is a libertarian (except for his take on women's rights) who's smartly running as a republican. Yet all the coverage is of McCain, who's saying nothing. Check out Ron Paul's web site, he really makes sense.
He doesn't have a snowball's chance in Hell, since everyone wants to vote for the clear winner instead of the person who makes sense.

I hate politics, it makes me sick.Empty talk, polling to help them decide what to say, bullshit from top to bottom. None of the candidates will ever say what they really think, we don't know anything reliable about anyone running!
I'm involved because we all have to stand together and protect what little we have left.
Read the entire Patriot act at the library of congress link: http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/z?d107:h.r.03162:
If this doesn't scare you, you're not an American.

we need a government that will stop spending our money on nightmare shadow programs that can or do target us, the taxpayers and citizens! We need less tax, a balanced budget, fewer laws and smaller government. I'm afraid it is already hopeless.

All these are related though, and so very, very important.

Good luck to all,
Chris in NY

Here is a neat little piece. Apparently, its just right for walking the dog.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D99NHb6B ... ture=bz301

coaledsweat wrote:Here is a neat little piece. Apparently, its just right for walking the dog.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D99NHb6B ... ture=bz301

ROFL!!!!! I'm hysterical!!

To keep it short, I am with Chris. On everything he said.

pointydog wrote:In CA, you now have to give up your fingerprints to renew your driver's license. CA is full of cattle, my sister-in-law lives there, she thinks it's OK. Tells me it will help catch child molesters. I asked her if she's a child molester, and she said no.

Now I'm confused, how will the *motor vehicle* department catch a child molester using her fingerprints?

Soon we will have that here in NY. Fingerprinting for your driver's license is coming.
We're already fingerprinted before we can have a concealed carry permit (the only way to legally posess any handgun).
Without a permit of his own, it is not even legal for your husband to HOLD your gun at the range while you reload a magazine.

Good luck to all,
Chris in NY

ca, ny and nj haven't been part of the usa for as long as i can remember.

i cant even vist freinds in ny anymore, i heard getting back into the states without a passport can be troublesome.

"Molon labe"

Post from another thread but I figured it belonged here too:


I still have a license to carry but have not made the commitment to do so. For those of you that have never regularly carried a concealed weapon, it requires some work/dedication on your part:
1. They can get heavy/uncomfortable to wear all the time.
2. They limitt your choice of clothing.
3. They have a nasty habit of tearing your shirts (alot of guys that carried revolvers would wrap rubber bands around the hammer to protect their clothing)
4. You cant bring them into many places & therefore have to hide/lock them in your car.

I'm sure there are alot more problems I have forgotten about as it's been a while since I had to pack a gun every day, but it does require alot more "thought" then you realize. Then there is the problem that you have to decide that you will carry all the time, or there is really no point. (You know that the first time you don't have it is when you will be mugged/robbed & most criminals will not be kind enough to delay/postpone their attack until you have had a chance to run home to get your weapon)

You're absolutely right Devil5052. You have to decide to do all the time or whats the point. The places you can't go with a gun are just a few really. It hasn't been a big deal for me to take the gun out of the holster and leave it in the truck while I'm in a bank or post office. If you go to school functions, that another no no for carrying. I carry every day except for when I go to work. They won't allow people to have guns in their vehicals on company property, unloaded locked up or any other way. But that's another subject.

I have a small frame revolver and medium frame sized semi-auto that I alternate between. I had the hammer "bobbed" on the revolver to reduce any snagging. That gun tends to be my summer gun because its smaller than the semi-auto and is easier to conceal under a just a t-shirt. Its only 6 rounds vs 15 on the semi but those 6 rounds are .357mag and pack quite a punch. I don't carry extra ammo. There's always a possible scenario that could call for extra ammo, but I just decided not to. As far as being heavy and uncomfortable, its not too bad really. The medium and smaller frame sizes are much better than trying to carry a full size 1911 or 6" barreled revolver. After awhile you don't even notice it. I've been sitting in the recliner watching tv at 9:00pm and realized that I was still carrying. Its almost like wearing glasses, after awhile you forget about them.

When I first got my permit and started carrying, it felt strange having a gun on me. I felt kinda conspicuous, always wondering if it was showing. But after several friends said they had no idea I was carrying until I told them, I felt more secure about how well it was concealed. It took some getting used to but now its no big deal. When I leave the house, making sure I have my gun is as automatic as making sure I have my wallet and keys.

John

69Drag wrote:You're absolutely right Devil5052. You have to decide to do all the time or whats the point. The places you can't go with a gun are just a few really. It hasn't been a big deal for me to take the gun out of the holster and leave it in the truck while I'm in a bank or post office. If you go to school functions, that another no no for carrying. I carry every day except for when I go to work. They won't allow people to have guns in their vehicals on company property, unloaded locked up or any other way. But that's another subject.

I have a small frame revolver and medium frame sized semi-auto that I alternate between. I had the hammer "bobbed" on the revolver to reduce any snagging. That gun tends to be my summer gun because its smaller than the semi-auto and is easier to conceal under a just a t-shirt. Its only 6 rounds vs 15 on the semi but those 6 rounds are .357mag and pack quite a punch. I don't carry extra ammo. There's always a possible scenario that could call for extra ammo, but I just decided not to. As far as being heavy and uncomfortable, its not too bad really. The medium and smaller frame sizes are much better than trying to carry a full size 1911 or 6" barreled revolver. After awhile you don't even notice it. I've been sitting in the recliner watching tv at 9:00pm and realized that I was still carrying. Its almost like wearing glasses, after awhile you forget about them.



When I first got my permit and started carrying, it felt strange having a gun on me. I felt kinda conspicuous, always wondering if it was showing. But after several friends said they had no idea I was carrying until I told them, I felt more secure about how well it was concealed. It took some getting used to but now its no big deal. When I leave the house, making sure I have my gun is as automatic as making sure I have my wallet and keys.

John

I know what you mean about getting used to carrying & it becoming 2nd nature, but it still requires some effort. (When I first retired from DEA, I almost felt undressed without the familiar weight of my firearm worn in an "inside the pants" holster) I will still carry, rarely now, if I am going into bad areas but you & I both know that the most probable time you'll need a firearm is when you least expect it & I am not willing to go through the hastle anymore.

One problem with carrying that doesn't get mentioned much is keeping your gun from falling on the floor when in the men's rooms. That one still gets me once in awhile.

John

69Drag wrote:One problem with carrying that doesn't get mentioned much is keeping your gun from falling on the floor when in the men's rooms. That one still gets me once in awhile.

John

That's really not a problem if you make sure you frequent the same men's rooms that Sen. Larry Craig frequents. He'll be happy to help you pick it up!

Hadn't thought about that. Since my gun don't swing that way, maybe I should consider getting a shoulder harness!

John

Some pretty good info where this came from .

http://www.personaldefensesolutions.net/Gun%20Myths.pdf

http://www.personaldefensesolutions.net/articles.htm