Can This Happen to Us???

stovepipemike · Post by **stovepipemike** » Sun. Jul. 20, 2014 3:05 pm

Just this past Saturday I was at a show and a Company exhibited for sale outside wood burning boilers. There was a sign that said get a good price on this one particular model due to the Gov't not allowing it to be sold after a certain date.[next April I think it was] He explained that emission standards are getting more strict and will be progressively going that way for each of the next 5 years . He claimed that a person won't be able to buy a normal old style wood burner soon. Lots of fancy stuff coming down the Emission Highway. I suppose next we will have to burn Gov't inspected oak and hickory. I can do without burning in a woodstove but I cannot financially tolerate loss of coal as a winter survival tool. What worries me is can our trusty ol' coal burners be far behind? Coal is coal. Anybody know anything about all of this? Mike

windyhill4.2 · Post by **windyhill4.2** » Sun. Jul. 20, 2014 4:41 pm

Again , WE the consumer brought this on ourselves . How many times have you seen an OWB huffing & puffing nasty smoke ? Were you ever lucky enough to get close enough to smell that smoke ? Some folks burnt diapers,garbage,any junk at all that they could burn just because the stove was big enough & could do it. It all started with one inconsiderate user burning crap like that & stinking his neighbors out ,they went to the township,complained repeatedly,township after township has banned them to the point that no residential user in Pa. can install an OWB unless it is a gassifier. Farms,greenhouses & commercial use of the standard OWB is still allowed. It all boils down to we the people not being considerate, not applying common sense. Yes there will be a lot of opinions from others who will point out the poor burn design of most OWB's,but the main problem is the end user.

titleist1 · Post by **titleist1** » Mon. Jul. 21, 2014 2:11 pm

hah....WH used 'boils down' about boilers.....kudos for that!!

But regarding future emissions restrictions....you can bet they will turn their attention to coal burners once they have nit-picked their way through other things.

Best to stock up on coal burning appliances now since they will probably be grandfathered in! From what I read today, coalnewbie and wsherrick have a head start on us all!!!

stovepipemike · Post by **stovepipemike** » Tue. Jul. 22, 2014 7:04 am

I agree with your comment titleist, I have a few backup units and probably would not turn away another one ,for the right price of course. Mike

Flyer5 · Post by **Flyer5** » Tue. Jul. 22, 2014 9:47 am

Anthracite burning stoves have been exempt from EPA so far. The emissions are very clean compared to older wood stoves. I don't see anything coming against coal burning stoker appliances for residential.

oilman · Post by **oilman** » Thu. Jul. 24, 2014 8:24 pm

Flyer5 wrote:Anthracite burning stoves have been exempt from EPA so far. The emissions are very clean compared to older wood stoves. I don't see anything coming against coal burning stoker appliances for residential.

I agree. Coal doesn't even register as 1% of alt. heating/hearth business. (wood,coal,pellet,biomass,gas)

I will say this forum makes me nervous. It's the only sign of life that this stuff exists to the general public. Hopefully no EPA spies will discover it.