Train Stuff

Train Stuff

PostBy: DePippo79 On: Mon Jul 21, 2014 1:28 pm

Hello all. Think I figured out how to get pictures off my phone and onto my computer. Here's a picture of a locomotive power assembly broken down. Cylinder, head, piston and rod. Grey thing is a air dryer. Own a job out of Boston so I get to walk through the shop on the way to the yard. More to follow. Matt
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EMD 645 power assembly.
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Re: Train Stuff

PostBy: grumpy On: Mon Jul 21, 2014 9:25 pm

Don't leave us hanging man, more more... :)
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PostBy: 2001Sierra On: Mon Jul 21, 2014 9:56 pm

If that pallet is to scale that piston is a Biggun'. I cannot imagine the torque those things have.
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Re: Train Stuff

PostBy: wsherrick On: Mon Jul 21, 2014 11:59 pm

The last time I saw one of those exposed was when the locomotive I was running had developed a severe case of crankcase overpressure. I was running along at 60 MPH, preparing to start braking for a station stop. The whole engine started shaking violently. I thought we went on the ground, but everything was where it was supposed to be when I looked out of the rear view mirror.
Suddenly it sounded like a bomb went off in the cab and all the alarm bells started to ring. "This just can't be good I thought to myself."
I was losing air out of the main reservoir quickly but I had enough left to get the train in the station.
I took my flashlight and went back to the engine compartment to find a geyser of lube oil gushing out of the breach in the crankcase and most of the power assembly, pistons and all were laying in the floor.
I had to pull the battery switch to stop the turbo pump from making a bad oil spill much worse.
The dispatcher called and asked if we were on the move.
I said, "No, Main Line. The pistons are laying in the floor, I think we aren't going anywhere. Request an immediate relief train."
Well, there was some long moments of static on the Radio.
"1739 have you tried to restart the locomotive?'
"1739 to Main Line. Put your ear to the speaker and listen very closely. The pistons are in the floor, over."
The engine was scrapped afterward and I am known now as the, "Engine Killer."
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Re: Train Stuff

PostBy: Ed.A On: Tue Jul 22, 2014 5:13 am

wsherrick wrote:The dispatcher called and asked if we were on the move.
I said, "No, Main Line. The pistons are laying in the floor, I think we aren't going anywhere. Request an immediate relief train."
Well, there was some long moments of static on the Radio.
"1739 have you tried to restart the locomotive?'
"1739 to Main Line. Put your ear to the speaker and listen very closely. The pistons are in the floor, over."


LOL...reminds me of my late Mother in-law when her car wouldn't start and asked for help...after 5mins of trying to get it to fire up, she looks at meand asked "did you check the air in the tires?"
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Re: Train Stuff

PostBy: I'm On Fire On: Tue Jul 22, 2014 6:49 am

The picture doesn't look real. That's a really big piston. Where are the other pictures?
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Re: Train Stuff

PostBy: samhill On: Tue Jul 22, 2014 7:13 am

Everything is big on big engines, I had the job of taking some big old steam compressors once & you needed a crane for those pistons. There is an ad on my local Craigslist for a pair of loco air horns that I'm always tempted to call about (no price listed), must be high or someone else that has no use for them would have bought them. :)
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Re: Train Stuff

PostBy: Sunny Boy On: Tue Jul 22, 2014 8:28 am

Many of the marine diesels have pistons bigger around than that whole pallet.

Two friends were talking about air compressors at a car show. One guy was an engineer for Ingersoll Rand, the other guy, I knew worked on aircraft.

I had just gotten a new, large, two stage commercial 5 hp for my shop. Had to use my engine hoist just to move it, so they let me join in the compressor discussion.

The aircraft guy said he just got a great deal on a two cylinder, government surplus air compressor. $50,000 and it only had one crack that his company was able to fix. In shock at hearing the price, I asked him how big the compressor was (thinking in CFM). He said it's two stories high. I jokingly asked him how big are the tires he's putting air in. Turns out his company was in the business of rebuilding 747's and they used it to pressure test the cabins for air leaks.

My 5 hp has seemed rather puny every time I look at it after that. :D

Paul
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Re: Train Stuff

PostBy: DePippo79 On: Tue Jul 22, 2014 2:22 pm

The Navy guys will probably know those parts. Alot of Navy ships had EMD engines. I learned the ins and outs of EMD's by ex Navy mechanics who went to the railroad after being discharged. Yes William it's pretty serious when one blows up. Here's a couple more. Hoping I can get some GE cut away parts tonight (used for training). To many people around last night. If any members want to add railroad related stuff feel free. Railroading goes with coal as peanut butter goes with jelly. Matt
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Re: Train Stuff

PostBy: wsherrick On: Tue Jul 22, 2014 3:44 pm

I would rather blow up a crankcase than have to deal with the water level dropping below the Crown Sheet on a Steam Engine. Neither one is pleasant.
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Re: Train Stuff

PostBy: Ed.A On: Tue Jul 22, 2014 6:15 pm

samhill wrote:Everything is big on big engines, I had the job of taking some big old steam compressors once & you needed a crane for those pistons. There is an ad on my local Craigslist for a pair of loco air horns that I'm always tempted to call about (no price listed), must be high or someone else that has no use for them would have bought them. :)


I used to work for Micro-Precision, Nathan Air-Chime was/is still part of MP and still made in South Windham Ct. They were selling direct through the factory awhile back but now I guess only from outside sources. These are on every GE train by specification, worldwide. ( well at least they were when I was there, being on 2nd shift we'd get calls from New Zealand and Austraila train co. all the time for retros and repairs.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nathan_Manufacturing,_Inc.
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PostBy: wsherrick On: Tue Jul 22, 2014 11:11 pm

Here Ed, here's a favorite product of Nathan. Their 6 chimes were once heard throughout the land. They tuned them a little different for each railroad. This is a Reading six chime. To me one of the most beautiful whistles.



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Re: Train Stuff

PostBy: Ed.A On: Wed Jul 23, 2014 5:04 am

[quote="wsherrick"]Here Ed, here's a favorite product of Nathan. Their 6 chimes were once heard throughout the land. They tuned them a little different for each railroad. This is a Reading six chime. To me one of the most beautiful whistles.

Awesome!

Each and every horn is sound tested before it leaves the factory ( I machined/assembled thousands). We had a custom sound booth that reduced the decibels in the building to acceptable levels...meaning you could still hear it quite loud throughout the shop. Although never as nice as the Valley creates... To be honest I never really got sick of hearing it.

When you put them on a regular Pick-up truck all kinds of hilarity will ensue. When they 1st started selling direct to the public, I was at an intersection in a town where there were no railroad tracks or crossings for miles around when a old chevy C-10 timed his Horn perfectly as he was approaching and passing through the light. I never laughed so hard in my life, people around were just freaked out...including my wife whose head was on a swivel looking for the train.
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PostBy: DePippo79 On: Wed Jul 23, 2014 2:11 pm

Nice discussion on horns/whistles. I have some old Boston and Maine Public Relations video's and I really enjoy the sound of the horns on the old E7/8's. Here's a couple more pictures. The locomotive is my favorite passenger engine. The classic F40PH. When running right you can really run a smooth train. No computers to think for you, pull the throttle and the amps come right up. Standard 26L brake equipment and awesome visibility. I rather run this 30 plus year old locomotive than the new GE's we just got. Unfortunately there days are numbered. They suck down the fuel. No separate diesel engine for head end power so the prime mover is always full throttle. How do you get flat spots out of wheels? With a wheel machine of course!! Enjoy. Matt
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Re: Train Stuff

PostBy: samhill On: Wed Jul 23, 2014 2:32 pm

Just for the heck of it I looked up the horn on Craigslist & they are Leslie Supertyfons doesn't give much info other than they are loud & that they work.
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