New Anthra- King AK180 Furnace

New Anthra- King AK180 Furnace

PostBy: coalnewbie On: Fri Aug 01, 2014 7:23 am

Took a ride over the beautiful Berwick, PA yesterday. I really think it is a nice part of the world. I went to see my buddy Dave.
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On seeing me lurking around the car park, most businesses would throw me out and call the police. Dave however came over to greet me and I looked around the factory (again). Those buys are busting out with stoves in preparation everywhere. My advice is if your in the market buy early as I think the world is waking up at last. These guys were busy. I BSed about my 110K and last winter and the fact that the stove was running 100% for way to long. I reviewed his firearm collection in the trunk of his car.

Boy oh boy, talk about high pressure stove sales :D...... yep you know the rest of the story. I bought one in spite of him.

I am installing it this morning - photos of course. I will move this install thread to Leisure line stoves. I'm really excited. I got talked into the SS oversized hopper and the intake box. We talked about flue sizes and yes all this will be covered in my install in a separate thread.

I am pumped.
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A beautiful Anthra-King 180 in my truck
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Re: New Anthra- King 180 Furnace

PostBy: stovepipemike On: Fri Aug 01, 2014 7:41 am

CN, Is that a certified bank draught or an oversized personal check you are holding there to be able to make that deal happen? We all know a nice wrapped new one never jumps up on the back of a dually without some type of big" paperwork". I can't wait for your pictures and kindly fill us in all about the chimney size/vent connector size as you go . Thanks for posting as we all need some installation fixes right about now. Light-off is getting closer than anybody realizes.Mike
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Re: New Anthra- King AK180 Furnace

PostBy: coalnewbie On: Fri Aug 01, 2014 7:53 am

CN, Is that a certified bank draught or an oversized personal check you are holding there to be able to make that deal happen?


It was really quite simple, Dave allowed me to put in on my EBT card. EO 12345 gives all illegals a free Anthra-King stove north of the MD line, the money will be stolen from freezing Americans. It's a new Amerika, we must all adjust.

I agree about an early winter and it's a little scary.
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Re: New Anthra- King AK180 Furnace

PostBy: Rob R. On: Fri Aug 01, 2014 8:11 am

Nice furnace, nice Ford truck too.

Want this moved to the LL section?
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Re: New Anthra- King AK180 Furnace

PostBy: coalnewbie On: Fri Aug 01, 2014 8:17 am

Yes please Rob.
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Coal Size/Type: Rice, Chestnut
Other Heating: Heating Oil CH, Toyotomi OM 22

Re: New Anthra- King AK180 Furnace

PostBy: coalnewbie On: Fri Aug 01, 2014 11:49 am

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AK 110 off to pallet
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So let's first of all think about the flue. The Chimney is about 20' up from my penetration with a 6x8" tiled interior. There is an ash box one story down from my penetration. So the stove fitted for 8" but I am going down to 7" on this 180,000btu eventually. I am putting in a couple of tees for ez cleanout but virtually no horizontal run so I am adding a little resistance. However, I am staying at 8" from the stove as I will explain later but first a quick check...

http://inspectapedia.com/chimneys/Chimn ... ze.htm#C9C

Need a break, the damned skid steer tire has a huge nail in it so off to get that fixed and lunch. Easy morning so far. New stove is in place and the old stove is on a pallet awaiting it's proud new owner. Yes I sold the AK110 in 24 hours in July - cash. Lots more pics coming.
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Hot Air Coal Stoker Stove: LL AnthraKing 180K, Pocono110K,KStokr 90K, DVC
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Baseburners & Antiques: Invader 2 Wings Best, Glenwood #8 + Herald 116x
Coal Size/Type: Rice, Chestnut
Other Heating: Heating Oil CH, Toyotomi OM 22

Re: New Anthra- King AK180 Furnace

PostBy: Rob R. On: Fri Aug 01, 2014 1:02 pm

Run 8" all the way to the chimney, step down to 7' at the thimble/brick.
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Re: New Anthra- King AK180 Furnace

PostBy: coalnewbie On: Fri Aug 01, 2014 1:18 pm

Yes Rob that is the plan for two reasons. The AK180 requires a 7" exhaust and the 220 an 8" so I need only a 7" but the Anthra Kings have another need. The breach to the stove is way down low in order to get the max out of the airflow pattern. This means that fly ash tends to accumulate there and with heavy use starts to block up. A cleanout tee is the first thing to put in the flu line. If a stove needs 7" then it will not get that if the flu is partially blocked with ash.

If we approximate cross sectional areas for a 6-8" pipe (pi being 3.14 and that is close enough for a dumb horse farmer)

6" 28 sq in+
7" 38 sq in+
8" 50 sq in+

So 8" it is and as I build the flu you will see two clean out tees that I think are advisable in AK line installs. The AK180 is the best of the series for my application and once it was announced I was hooked. You see Dave you did not have to apply that hammer lock in order to force me to buy :) - well I had to make up an excuse for the wife. I get the full 26 tubes for ultra efficiency. Yes, the stove is pricey but I want every gram of coal to count. This is not where you want to cheapskate. AK 180 + LEHIGH RICE - YEAH, MOTHER NATURE BEING IT ON, LET'S TRY THAT AGAIN - let's see what you got!

The slight down side is that this sucker is a big baby (it's a 220 in disguise) but that does not deter me in my application. In heavy use I used to clean that lower T out every Sunday morning with my AK110 by removing the cap and yes the stove remained on. More pics later as endless boring chores await my attention. Tomorrow is another day - I'm having a blast.
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Hot Air Coal Stoker Stove: LL AnthraKing 180K, Pocono110K,KStokr 90K, DVC
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Coal Size/Type: Rice, Chestnut
Other Heating: Heating Oil CH, Toyotomi OM 22

Re: New Anthra- King AK180 Furnace

PostBy: coalnewbie On: Sat Aug 02, 2014 9:14 am

OK, so it's Saturday morning and I am loaded with caffeine and ready to take on the world again.

As I am on my own I lifted the AK180 off the back of the truck with Muscles with a piece of chain.
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Do you mean my muscles, no I mean the the second greatest forklift ever made the Yale GP30-2024 who we affectionately call Muscles.

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OK OK, for those that have not fallen asleep with boredom the question is what is the greatest forklift ever made.... roll on the drums.

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Time for a break and then back to the stove. I need to take the dog to get her nails done - sigh.
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Taylor 1960 a 7 ton monster - Supermuscles
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Hot Air Coal Stoker Stove: LL AnthraKing 180K, Pocono110K,KStokr 90K, DVC
Hand Fed Coal Stove: Hitzer 50-93,
Baseburners & Antiques: Invader 2 Wings Best, Glenwood #8 + Herald 116x
Coal Size/Type: Rice, Chestnut
Other Heating: Heating Oil CH, Toyotomi OM 22

Re: New Anthra- King AK180 Furnace

PostBy: tsb On: Sat Aug 02, 2014 10:46 am

To get the dogs' nails done ?
Good thing this isn't in FSC.
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Re: New Anthra- King AK180 Furnace

PostBy: coalnewbie On: Sat Aug 02, 2014 4:18 pm

Damn should have had it finished by lunch but my favorite barn cat pumpkin got attacked by a rabid animal and we got back from the vet - he did not make it.

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Move the stove to where you want it. Concrete floor so that is easy. Now the important part dead level in both directions

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Put in the Hyfire stove kit with gasket 123 and attach the distribution fan

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Assemble the optional fresh air box

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Attach the flu, 8" up to the chimney and 7" in the chimney. There is a 6" there now for testing.

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Test cycling now - sounds perfect.

Now for the unusual part the back of the room is due for a complete redo

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So for now a 25'x14" H&C flexible ducting linking to the air conditioning system run backwards (not yet).

The stove temperature operation and safety switch will be added here later tonight as things calm down.

Now onto the bar and pool room there but the stove is done and we can plan some more. If your not sure of all this, are uncomfortable with electrics let your LL dealer handle these details. Some level of detail is missed out here as this is mostly read by the coal illuminati who can install this stove in their sleep. Brain surgery it is not. If you are installing one and I can help email me. Let me get through the winter with this unit and I will report some more.
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Hot Air Coal Stoker Stove: LL AnthraKing 180K, Pocono110K,KStokr 90K, DVC
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Baseburners & Antiques: Invader 2 Wings Best, Glenwood #8 + Herald 116x
Coal Size/Type: Rice, Chestnut
Other Heating: Heating Oil CH, Toyotomi OM 22

Re: New Anthra- King AK180 Furnace

PostBy: coalnewbie On: Thu Aug 07, 2014 9:13 am

Sorry for the delay in the final part.

LL have now devised a new safety system that I like. The safety unit has two sensors, one is an absolute limit switch set at 200*. This sets the fan on max and cuts off the combustion fan and the coal feed. The second is a variable speed sensor that isolates the distribution fan when the duct temperature is less than 100* and increases the fan speed thereafter.

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I have not put it into the duct yet as I am only now starting to rip things apart.

I got a couple of cheapie deals on good quality chimney caps. They are going in this morning. It's an easy install as the fire escape allows me to walk onto the roof.

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Finished chimney photo later, if I live through it, I'm waiting for the dew to dry off. I'm baaaaaack...

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OK, they are SS and were next to nothing. In this case I did fall for the deal but Architectural Digest will not be calling. It will keep the rain out...

So as a previous Anthra King owner I have to say the install was easy if you can handle a very top heavy 600lb+ dead weight. I'ts a big sucker so measure carefully (dimensions on the LL site). Don't forget the need for a 7" flu. Install an oversized T in the exhaust. The stove is expensive but is fabulous PA build quality. The premium over a Hyfire with a shroud is not that great and this stove will be way more efficient. About 40 sq ft of heat scrubbing tubes HAS to work better but as usual this winter time will tell.

Repost in the spring.
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Hot Air Coal Stoker Stove: LL AnthraKing 180K, Pocono110K,KStokr 90K, DVC
Hand Fed Coal Stove: Hitzer 50-93,
Baseburners & Antiques: Invader 2 Wings Best, Glenwood #8 + Herald 116x
Coal Size/Type: Rice, Chestnut
Other Heating: Heating Oil CH, Toyotomi OM 22

Re: New Anthra- King AK180 Furnace

PostBy: whistlenut On: Thu Aug 07, 2014 9:33 am

When you choose to go to the Industrial/Commercial quality unit, you better be ready for the results. No Happy Homeowner setup....you are in for some affordable comfort, even more so than the unit you have had in the past. I hate to say it won't be long before we need the heat again, but I'd sure love to know who stole the summer......blink and it's August already......
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Re: New Anthra- King AK180 Furnace

PostBy: EarthWindandFire On: Thu Aug 07, 2014 2:28 pm

Damn should have had it finished by lunch but my favorite barn cat pumpkin got attacked by a rabid animal and we got back from the vet - he did not make it.


Rest In Peace to poor Pumpkin. :(
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Re: New Anthra- King AK180 Furnace

PostBy: tsb On: Thu Aug 07, 2014 2:57 pm

I assume the rabid animal didn't make it either ?
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