9" smoke outlet?

9" smoke outlet?

PostBy: Boots On: Sat Aug 02, 2014 9:51 am

I attempted to start the install of my Keystoker ka-6 that I bought from Keystoker as a factory referbish. I've already ran into my first problem. According to Keystoker the smoke outlet is 8". I purchased 8" smoke pipe and accessories. I tried to start running the smoke pipe to find that the 8" pipe is a good deal smaller than the smoke outlet of my boiler. I maeasured 8-7/16" inside and 8-7/8" outside of the outlet. is this a 9" outlet? :|
Boots
 
Stoker Coal Boiler: Keystoker KA-6
Hand Fed Coal Boiler: Burnham SFB 101 (sold)

Re: 9" smoke outlet?

PostBy: whistlenut On: Sat Aug 02, 2014 12:15 pm

No! It is 8" and the smoke pipe goes inside the flange. You are fine.... You may have to purchase an adjustable adapter from a stove shop, or wait until Monday and give them a call.
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Re: 9" smoke outlet?

PostBy: freetown fred On: Sat Aug 02, 2014 1:05 pm

Indeed---INSIDE with crimped end :)
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Re: 9" smoke outlet?

PostBy: gaw On: Sun Aug 03, 2014 6:04 am

If you have an older ka 6 it could be 9 inch. If you have a 9 inch outlet run 9 inch pipe to the chimney where it can be reduced to 8 inch if you must to enter the chimney.
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Stoker Coal Boiler: Keystoker KA-6
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Re: 9" smoke outlet?

PostBy: freetown fred On: Sun Aug 03, 2014 6:50 am

Boots, how about a picture??? I'm curious. Never even heard of a 9".
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Re: 9" smoke outlet?

PostBy: Rob R. On: Sun Aug 03, 2014 8:26 am

9" is out there, just not a common size. Keystoker KB-8 uses 9".
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Re: 9" smoke outlet?

PostBy: coaledsweat On: Sun Aug 03, 2014 10:38 am

There are a lot of oddballs. My thimble is 7". I had never heard of it but the HVAC supply house had it in stock.
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Re: 9" smoke outlet?

PostBy: freetown fred On: Sun Aug 03, 2014 11:13 am

Anything to make things easier/ consistent I'd suspect! :clap: toothy
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Re: 9" smoke outlet?

PostBy: Boots On: Sun Aug 03, 2014 12:57 pm

Here is a picture of the Crimped end in the opening. the non crimped does not fit either. My themble is 7" so I will have to reduce from 9" ultimatly down to 7'. Keystoker even gave me an 8" Baro.... I am having a tough time finding anything in 9" called everywhere I could think of in the area. The best I could come up with so far is someone offered to have one of their suppliers make parts for me. Why could I not reduce to 8" and rune 8" all the way to the themble where it reduces to 7" ?

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Boots
 
Stoker Coal Boiler: Keystoker KA-6
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Re: 9" smoke outlet?

PostBy: Lightning On: Sun Aug 03, 2014 1:46 pm

Hmmm yeah looks like you'll need to do something different there... ;)
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Re: 9" smoke outlet?

PostBy: franco b On: Sun Aug 03, 2014 3:53 pm

If you measured correctly 8 /7/16 ID. then the gap should be no more than 3/16 all around for 8 inch uncrimped pipe. That gap could easily be filled with some 1/2 inch round gasket material finished off with some furnace cement and of course some screws to hold in place.

In any case I would avoid any kind of reducer adapter but instead shim the hole if need be with 2 inch wide or so thin galvanized sheet metal which you can wrap inside the hole to reduce it to what you want.

Seems pretty stupid of Keystoker.
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Re: 9" smoke outlet?

PostBy: Boots On: Sun Aug 03, 2014 6:05 pm

franco b wrote:Seems pretty stupid of Keystoker.



I was not amused :?

But I think I like your advice about using 1/2" rope gasket and furnace cement. That would save me from using "non standard" parts that would be hard to find in an emergancy. Rope gasket and frunace cement you can find at any decent hardware store.
Boots
 
Stoker Coal Boiler: Keystoker KA-6
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Re: 9" smoke outlet?

PostBy: McGiever On: Sun Aug 03, 2014 6:25 pm

Just measured a K-6 outlet here, it is 7-3/8" inside and a snug 8-0" outside. :roll2:
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Re: 9" smoke outlet?

PostBy: Lightning On: Sun Aug 03, 2014 7:23 pm

Hey franco, why not use an adapter? Seems like an easy fix.. :?
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Hand Fed Coal Furnace: Clayton 1537G
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Re: 9" smoke outlet?

PostBy: franco b On: Sun Aug 03, 2014 8:47 pm

Lightning wrote:Hey franco, why not use an adapter? Seems like an easy fix.. :?

An adapter is a pain to find and another pain, and expense, when having to replace it. Would rather keep things all one size when possible.
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