Coal for My Studio?

 
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Post by Sunny Boy » Tue. Aug. 12, 2014 10:42 am

Lightning wrote:Wow almost $6 per gallon that's insane.. it takes a couple hours to get a well established coal fire.. it will start producing heat sooner than that though..
Lee,

I just called in a refill for my pro-pain gas bottle before the winter prices set in. $4.29 a gallon mid summer price. They said I was lucky because only a couple of weeks ago it was $4.59 a gallon. So much for all the gas well drilling they've been doing around here that was supposed to lower the price. Price jumped up after our Governor put a moratorium on any new drilling. Think maybe there's a connection ? :mad:

We use gas for the kitchen stove in the summer and the clothes dryer ! We can't stand cooking on electric stoves, but it's looking like it will be cheaper to buy a new electric dryer !

Paul

 
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Post by Richard S. » Tue. Aug. 12, 2014 11:34 am

Propane is derived from both refining oil and natural gas. Not sure what the percentages are. Plus you have the delivery fee and I'm sure buying and maintaining one of those trucks is not cheap.

Induction stoves are supposed to be comparable to gas.

 
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Post by Lightning » Tue. Aug. 12, 2014 11:38 am

Wow.. $4.29 per gallon of propane approaches 5 times the cost of coal for me...


 
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Other Heating: Oil &electric plenum furnace

Post by Sunny Boy » Tue. Aug. 12, 2014 11:54 am

Richard S. wrote:Propane is derived from both refining oil and natural gas. Not sure what the percentages are. Plus you have the delivery fee and I'm sure buying and maintaining one of those trucks is not cheap.

Induction stoves are supposed to be comparable to gas.
Richard,

According to sources on the internet, most of our pro-pain comes as a byproduct of cleaning pro-pain and other volatile gases (butane, etc.) out natural gas.

Paul

 
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Other Heating: Oil &electric plenum furnace

Post by Sunny Boy » Tue. Aug. 12, 2014 12:03 pm

Lightning wrote:Wow.. $4.29 per gallon of propane approaches 5 times the cost of coal for me...
Is it any wonder why we love to use our coal range so much ?

It does what the gas stove can do and more, for far less cost - even when the power goes out. Plus, the coal range eliminates most of the need for the dryer for 8-9 months of the year. Using the range that much of the year , I only need to refill the smallish pro-pain tank about every three years.

Paul

 
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Post by yeldogt » Tue. Aug. 12, 2014 12:29 pm

The cost of propane last winter and also the shortage has caused people to rethink when they remodel -- lots of heat pumps going in as well as mini splits.

I'm remodeling this house to take me into retirement ... If I had a bit more room the idea of a coal boiler w/auto controls would be just the ticket.

What is the flue size on most of these coal stoves? -- say a #6


 
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Post by Lightning » Tue. Aug. 12, 2014 12:48 pm

yeldogt wrote: lots of heat pumps going in as well as mini splits.
I haven't heard any good things about heat pumps when the real cold shows up.. They'll be remodeling the heat system next.. :(

 
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Post by yeldogt » Tue. Aug. 12, 2014 12:51 pm

Actually -- The newest ones are quite amazing. We have a mini in a loft and I was getting lots of heat out of it at 5+ this past winter -- and thats not from any strip heaters.

 
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Post by Sunny Boy » Tue. Aug. 12, 2014 1:08 pm

yeldogt wrote: ..................

What is the flue size on most of these coal stoves? -- say a #6
The Glenwood 116, 118 Oaks and #6, #8 base heaters, plus the Wings Best 116X, and Herald #6 all use a 6 inch flue pipe. Your chimney is more than adequate.

Paul

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