A great "grate" question

A great "grate" question

PostBy: michaelanthony On: Sun Aug 17, 2014 12:41 pm

When you mention the words "Glenwood stove" antique, big, fancy, plain, ornamental, base burner, oak, range, all come to mind. Other thoughts comes to mind is: expensive repair, parts, original etc. Well I notice there are many CHEAP a dime a dozen Glenwood cabinet stoves around and wonder if the prismatic grates in these "newer" models fit the antiques of around 1900 that we so desire. Example of one for sale in Maine. This stove is ripe for the cost of scrap and could possibly save foundry costs for new cast grates...just some thoughts on this damp and dreary Sunday.

http://maine.craigslist.org/atq/4621742787.html
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Re: A great "grate" question

PostBy: Sunny Boy On: Sun Aug 17, 2014 5:48 pm

My guess would be no.

Based on there are four grate bars in the Craig's list pictures and each bar has it's own triangular stub end to fit a grate shaker handle onto.

The early Glenwoods that I've seen and, that I have, all the grate bars have "geared" mounted in pairs. One grate bar with a triangular stub end sticking out, for the shaker handle to go on, is geared to a second grate bar that is shorter because it has no triangular stub.

The four bar stoves have a left and right pair that are of different lengths where the gears mount onto the bars. That's so that only the gears mesh on one side with each other, while the pair on the other side only mesh with each other.

The ranges have only two grate bars, with the left most bar being the one with the triangular stub for the shaker handle. Shaking that one shakes both grate bars because of them being the geared together.

First picture is the grate bar gears of my Glenwood 118 Modern Oak. The gears are mounted at the rear end of the bars. You can see they are staggered in pairs. When I bought it, some fool had welded the bars all the same length so that shaking one pair tried to shake all four. Must have been too much resistance, because all that did was chew up the triangular stub ends. I was able to get new grate bars for it from Bryant Stove in Maine.

The Second picture is my Glenwood #6 base heater. Those gears are on the front end and also staggered in pairs.

Paul
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Re: A great "grate" question

PostBy: McGiever On: Sun Aug 17, 2014 9:11 pm

And there, now... you have Grate answer. :P
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Re: A great "grate" question

PostBy: Sunny Boy On: Sun Aug 17, 2014 9:17 pm

McGiever wrote:And there, now... you have Grate answer. :P


:D
Lets just hope that not being able to swap them, it doesn't "grate" on his nerves. :D

Paul
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Re: A great "grate" question

PostBy: michaelanthony On: Sun Aug 17, 2014 10:35 pm

Oh you guys stop MESHING with me. :lol: Thanks for the look, I thought maybe there might be some interchangeable parts that we are overlooking.
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Re: A great "grate" question

PostBy: Sunny Boy On: Mon Aug 18, 2014 4:48 am

Here's a later Glenwood cabinet type - a #14- with what looks like geared pairs. http://www.ebay.com/itm/Glenwood-cabine ... 1c4496dc04

Note that the two outer grate bars don't have shaker handle triangular stubs, leading me to believe that all four are in gear pairs.

But, that doesn't mean much because the bar lengths and where the bars sit in a frame, or supports, could be quite different than the earlier stoves - which can differ quite a bit from other models of the same year- or, sometimes from even later versions of the same model name. Example, my 1903 Sunny Glenwood range has different length grate bars than the Sunny model of only a couple of years later.

The stove shops have a lot of different grate bars that they save for patterns to have new bars recast. And since the grates take such a beating, I think that's a better route to go then gambling on buying a used stove to see if the grate bars are better than what one already has.

Paul
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