Where do you get your Bituminous coal and a going price?

Re: Where do you get your Bituminous coal and a going price?

PostBy: dad123456 On: Sat Nov 01, 2014 11:55 am

what's the difference between anthracite and bituminous I know one is soft butt hat's all I know be can it be burnt in any stove seems very cheap per ton I have a Glen wood 116 antique hand Fire
dad123456
 
Baseburners & Antiques: Glenwood 116
Coal Size/Type: large anthracite
Other Heating: oil


Re: Where do you get your Bituminous coal and a going price?

PostBy: lsayre On: Sat Nov 01, 2014 5:01 pm

Anthracite is low in volatiles and burns smoke free and close to odor free. A tad of sulfur odor. Bituminous is high in volatiles and burns (initially at least) anything but smoke and odor free. I've seen yellow to black smoke billowing from the homes of the Amish near here who burn it. Bituminous does generally have a lower ash content than anthracite, and in many cases it will actually have more BTU value than anthracite also. But you will need to clean the flue pipe more often with bit, and it can be more difficult to control the early stages of the fire while the high volatiles are burning off (which is when most of the smoke and stink occur as well).
lsayre
 
Stoker Coal Boiler: AHS S130 Coal Gun
Coal Size/Type: Blaschak Anthracite Pea
Other Heating: Resistance Boiler (13.5 KW)

Re: Where do you get your Bituminous coal and a going price?

PostBy: Smitty275 On: Sat Nov 15, 2014 7:33 pm

I bought bituminous in egg size (2-5") at Dettingers near Chippawa today @ $140/ton.
Smitty275
 
Hand Fed Coal Furnace: Hot Blast 1321
Coal Size/Type: Egg & Lump
Other Heating: natural gas

Re: Where do you get your Bituminous coal and a going price?

PostBy: jhoncho4x4 On: Thu Nov 20, 2014 10:18 pm

What do you guys think of this for a Hot Blast 1557m?
Good price?
http://cincinnati.craigslist.org/for/4746545792.html
jhoncho4x4
 
Hand Fed Coal Furnace: Hot Blast 1557m

Re: Where do you get your Bituminous coal and a going price?

PostBy: dad123456 On: Fri Nov 21, 2014 10:29 am

when you're done shoveling those piles you're going to need a new shovel
dad123456
 
Baseburners & Antiques: Glenwood 116
Coal Size/Type: large anthracite
Other Heating: oil

Re: Where do you get your Bituminous coal and a going price?

PostBy: Smitty275 On: Fri Nov 21, 2014 8:04 pm

For only $100 I'd figure out how to burn it in my machine. It'll be a lot of work moving it home. Good luck.
Smitty275
 
Hand Fed Coal Furnace: Hot Blast 1321
Coal Size/Type: Egg & Lump
Other Heating: natural gas

Re: Where do you get your Bituminous coal and a going price?

PostBy: jhoncho4x4 On: Mon Dec 01, 2014 9:45 pm

I emailed the guy. Says it's his uncles coal and he can load it with a Bobcat. I also asked about a scale and he never mentioned it in his reply. I inquired about a quantity discount and his reply was "ya sure, call and work out a deal.

I have a 1 ton dump truck (International 1310) with 8'L x 6'-6"W x 19"T bed. Max weight capacity (tires) is 3.5 tons. So I will limit the load to 3 tons.
From previous readings on this forum, I have come to the conclusion that coal is light for it's size?
So, here is a question for all those coal load mathematicians I have seen on here. What should a full load of bituminous coal this size "about 1 to 2 inches in size" weigh in this bed?

http://cincinnati.craigslist.org/for/4746545792.html

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I have to confess, it has crossed my mind more than once to drive this outfit down there, unload the dump truck, have them load it with coal and then drive the dump truck back onto the trailer and tow it home. That old 7.3 diesel Ford has towed anything I have ever thrown at it and smiled the whole trip. The 43 year old International would be a real (slow) treat to drive home :shock: .
jhoncho4x4
 
Hand Fed Coal Furnace: Hot Blast 1557m

Re: Where do you get your Bituminous coal and a going price?

PostBy: Smitty275 On: Tue Dec 02, 2014 1:58 pm

You'll be lucky to get two ton in that bed with only 19" side board.
Smitty275
 
Hand Fed Coal Furnace: Hot Blast 1321
Coal Size/Type: Egg & Lump
Other Heating: natural gas


Re: Where do you get your Bituminous coal and a going price?

PostBy: Smitty275 On: Thu Dec 11, 2014 11:32 am

Last Sat I had time to go for another load of bituminous egg. Called Thompsons and they had ran the tipple and had it still in the tipple hopper. Thought it would be good to test it back to back with the bit egg from Dettingers. In Ohio with tax its a couple bucks cheaper than in Pa without tax. Not enough to cover a gallon of gas. Anyhow, once the weather turns cold again I'll give a review. But for the last two days the Thompson coal seems to burn better with the out door temps only being in the low 30s/high 20s and only about
1/3 of grate covered.

Was nice getting loaded straight out of the tipple. No loader, no dust, just creep forward as they motion you to.
Smitty275
 
Hand Fed Coal Furnace: Hot Blast 1321
Coal Size/Type: Egg & Lump
Other Heating: natural gas

Re: Where do you get your Bituminous coal and a going price?

PostBy: Smitty275 On: Thu Dec 11, 2014 11:32 am

Last Sat I had time to go for another load of bituminous egg. Called Thompsons and they had ran the tipple and had it still in the tipple hopper. Thought it would be good to test it back to back with the bit egg from Dettingers. In Ohio with tax its a couple bucks cheaper than in Pa without tax. Not enough to cover a gallon of gas. Anyhow, once the weather turns cold again I'll give a review. But for the last two days the Thompson coal seems to burn better with the out door temps only being in the low 30s/high 20s and only about
1/3 of grate covered.

Was nice getting loaded straight out of the tipple. No loader, no dust, just creep forward as they motion you to.
Smitty275
 
Hand Fed Coal Furnace: Hot Blast 1321
Coal Size/Type: Egg & Lump
Other Heating: natural gas

Re: Where do you get your Bituminous coal and a going price?

PostBy: LoschStoker On: Fri Dec 12, 2014 6:57 pm

I use
L X W X H
cu. ft. X .025 = tons
cu. yd. X .675 = tons
Now I'm sure the weight of a cu. yd. of barley is different then the weight of stove and soft coal is different then hard coal.
But this will get you close. Does anyone have better numbers?
LoschStoker
 
Hand Fed Coal Stove: (New) Warm Morning 400A
Other Heating: Yukon Polar-Eagle II Multi Furnace
Stove/Furnace Make: Losch 350 130k BTU's
Stove/Furnace Model: DS Stoves 1500WH Short Lid

Re: Where do you get your Bituminous coal and a going price?

PostBy: corey On: Wed Dec 17, 2014 6:54 pm

Any one know of bit coal sale places in southwestern VA or nearby in KY?
corey
 
Hand Fed Coal Stove: USS Ashley coal stove
Coal Size/Type: Eastern KY bituminous

Re: Where do you get your Bituminous coal and a going price?

PostBy: davidmcbeth3 On: Wed Dec 17, 2014 7:14 pm

I'm also interested in burning some in SE CT .... to save $$$$
davidmcbeth3
 
Coal Size/Type: nut/pea/anthra
Stove/Furnace Make: Hitzer
Stove/Furnace Model: 503

Re: Where do you get your Bituminous coal and a going price?

PostBy: McGiever On: Wed Dec 17, 2014 11:06 pm

The differences with Bituminous are a lot more than $$$$$
McGiever
 
Stoker Coal Boiler: AXEMAN-ANDERSON 130 "1959"
Coal Size/Type: PEA / ANTHRACITE
Other Heating: Ground Source Heat Pump
Stove/Furnace Make: Hydro Heat /Mega Tek

Re: Where do you get your Bituminous coal and a going price?

PostBy: davidmcbeth3 On: Fri Dec 19, 2014 12:22 am

McGiever wrote:The differences with Bituminous are a lot more than $$$$$


u saying its cheaper to burn antracite v. bit? Please explain if so..
davidmcbeth3
 
Coal Size/Type: nut/pea/anthra
Stove/Furnace Make: Hitzer
Stove/Furnace Model: 503