Propane Water Heater

 
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Post by scalabro » Wed. Sep. 10, 2014 8:06 am


 
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Post by McGiever » Wed. Sep. 10, 2014 8:44 am

Yup, there is the solution to the problem. :)

Who will be the first to jump on it?
Whom ever does, be sure to report back.

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Post by sakrattack » Thu. Sep. 11, 2014 3:53 am

thanks for all the replies,,

yeah, I've got a 500 gallon, below ground tank. Amerigas owns the tank, but I would have to dig it up for them to take it. Apparently they didn't put it underground. Previous owners did.
This Pocono better do the job.. I've had the stove for a few years now but never really used it. This year I have to , or go broke with propane.

so, since Amerigas owns the tank, its against the law for anyone else to fill it up. I've been told if I get another propane supplier, sometimes they will make a deal to buy it or swap it with one of theirs,,

I'd rather just either dig it up and be done with propane, or get this coal thing working , and live with the little propane I would use..

Once again thanks for all the posts. it gives me some things to think about.

 
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Post by Lightning » Thu. Sep. 11, 2014 5:07 am

I little food for thought.. if you use 1000 gallons of propane at $4.00 per gallon for $4000 total, you would use roughly 4 tons of coal at $250 per ton for $1000....

Saving 3 grand per year is pretty convincing.. :) I used to burn propane, I've felt yer pain.. but not anymore


 
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Post by sakrattack » Thu. Sep. 11, 2014 5:19 am

lightning-- I know, I know,, a few years ago I spent 5k on just heating the house.. and I have a small cape which is why I bought a pocono. But I've had some issues along the way which made it easier to just turn on the propane furnace-- at least thats what I thought at the time,, there was a smell coming off the pocono when I first would fire it up. Everyone on the board said its normal but wife said turn it off. Then I could never dial in the draft, I have a nanometer,, one second it says .03 , lookin good,, few minutes later ( no doors open, bathroom fans etc), and its up to .12,, but this year I won't care about any smells or draft... as long as the CO detectors aren't going off that thing is staying lit.

 
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Post by plumb-r » Thu. Sep. 11, 2014 6:23 am

Sounds like your heavily invested in propane usage. First I'd run the heck out of the coal heater, it means a little more work than just hitting the t-stat on a propane furnace but you will save money. If the propane bill is still to much running the coal unit I'd work on owning the tank. Big cost saving when you own the tank. :)

 
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Post by Lightning » Thu. Sep. 11, 2014 7:11 am

With the draft variation like that, have you considered a barometric damper? It will steady heat output too..

 
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Post by Lightning » Thu. Sep. 11, 2014 7:12 am

With the draft variation like that, have you considered a barometric damper? It will steady heat output too..

What is the smell? New stove?? It will go away shortly.


 
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Post by McGiever » Thu. Sep. 11, 2014 7:50 am

sakrattack wrote:lightning-- I know, I know,, a few years ago I spent 5k on just heating the house.. and I have a small cape which is why I bought a pocono. But I've had some issues along the way which made it easier to just turn on the propane furnace-- at least thats what I thought at the time,, there was a smell coming off the pocono when I first would fire it up. Everyone on the board said its normal but wife said turn it off. Then I could never dial in the draft, I have a nanometer,, one second it says .03 , lookin good,, few minutes later ( no doors open, bathroom fans etc), and its up to .12,, but this year I won't care about any smells or draft... as long as the CO detectors aren't going off that thing is staying lit.
Best to "cure the paint" while it is still mild temps outside, open the windows and use some fans to hasten the smells outside. Send the wife out shopping too. :bop:

 
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Post by CoalisCoolxWarm » Thu. Sep. 11, 2014 10:37 am

CoalisCoolxWarm wrote:First, reduce all your costs. $4 propane? I use these guys.

http://www.thriftypropane.com
Quick update here. Although the unit price for gas is still low, they've drastically increased their tank and installation pricing! Drastically. Be sure to ask details first if calling them.

I'm buying and installing a (refurb/certified) tank and regulator elsewhere to install with our machines, then buying propane from them.

Hope this didn't cause any heartburn for anyone ;)

 
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Post by franpipeman » Wed. Oct. 01, 2014 8:07 am

I have a kyle geyser note water heat pump and I simply duct the cool air into the finished basement quarter to act as ac/dehumidifier. The issue comes in while in my 1000 plus sq fee basement its sized just right, but in extreme warm humid summer temps ( which is 73 in basement) I don't use enough hot water, But a family of 4 may as we are just two.

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