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As the world of the future wakes up can these attacks regulate stupid govt actions. Take down a country and it paralyses the govt and commerce. Live attacks posted on youtube are interesting. Hey, it's better than what is on television. It's in it's infancy now but the future sure looks interesting. As a country we need to get along with the world.
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Why do you think the Russians just bought 40000 typewriters. You can't hack a filing cabinet.
We have way too much of our NCI attached to the big web. It won't be long before we see the first really damaging attacks on facilities.
We have way too much of our NCI attached to the big web. It won't be long before we see the first really damaging attacks on facilities.
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My thoughts exactly. Every time an attack fails they learn something. You will notice ever better coordination of attacks as I have been watching this for a while. This has been ramping up for a year now and it really started with the Snowden revelations. With the NSA we started a war we can't win. It's payback time and most of us are blissfully unaware. We will only care when the grid goes down or the sewage farm shuts. However, the really damaging attack will come soon as Obummers tee times get messed up. That will cross a red line for sure. This is the new war front as no one can afford a real war.It won't be long before we see the first really damaging attacks on facilities.
Now reports of Presidential internet shutdown powers make sense and thoughts of slowing down the internet come into focus. The internet as it exists can't last much longer like this and Google now wants to connect everyone on the planet? A novel idea but it's another liberal idea with catastrophic consequences.
Well at least one person noticed.
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Well, connectivity is part of the modern world. We can choose how much of that we want to take part in. We need to take a serious look at hard physical firewalls between vital networks and open web. There have been steps in the right direction, but the long and the short of it is; if a system can be accessed remotely there is a potential for change. We took this to the full extreme in the Navy. Laptops that interfaced with reactor I&C equipment are never connected to a network. Not even the SCI top secret (especially not! That would leak SCI onto a Confidential-RD computer) Only virgin media could be used, if 3.44 floppy (yes we still used them) went in a non-I&C machine, it could never go back in the original laptop.
Modern SCADA and DCS systems are designed so that when they fail an offsite member of the IT crowd can get on and fix it. It's just ducky, reduces training requirements for operators and holds down on overhead. However a gate is only as strong as it's lock, and the pickers are only gaining in skill. I sometimes think we haven't seen a major attack yet as there is a desire to maximize the number of critical systems they can access before making a move. It would tip their hand to shutdown a little utility like mine when if they continue to work and practice and penetrate, they could perhaps damage major transmission lines (gas, oil, electric). They could throw the NE US back into the 18th century (I was gonna say 19th, but they had gas back then)
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Modern SCADA and DCS systems are designed so that when they fail an offsite member of the IT crowd can get on and fix it. It's just ducky, reduces training requirements for operators and holds down on overhead. However a gate is only as strong as it's lock, and the pickers are only gaining in skill. I sometimes think we haven't seen a major attack yet as there is a desire to maximize the number of critical systems they can access before making a move. It would tip their hand to shutdown a little utility like mine when if they continue to work and practice and penetrate, they could perhaps damage major transmission lines (gas, oil, electric). They could throw the NE US back into the 18th century (I was gonna say 19th, but they had gas back then)
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WOW, just wow, I am learning so much here, thank you. Insomnia has it's benefits. With a total dipchit in the WH, it's just refreshing to know that people with your skills are still defending the nation. Thank you for sharing.
We are under attack but it appears we are not striking back. That is great as long as we have an eventual attack strategy ready. It's just absorb the attack and learn that we need to harden specific targets. Tip my waitress, hah, it's just a tired old man here waiting for morning.
We are under attack but it appears we are not striking back. That is great as long as we have an eventual attack strategy ready. It's just absorb the attack and learn that we need to harden specific targets. Tip my waitress, hah, it's just a tired old man here waiting for morning.
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De nada, I'm nothing special. Just a cranky ex-bubblehead trying to stay awake in a warm comfy chair while I watch the computer screens.
As for striking back, there is the potential that we fired the opening shots. Look up the attack on the Iranian uranium centrifuges. If we didn't do it, I bet we gave whoever did a golden slap on the back...
We are creating a completely new battlefield, the problem is we don't have the same overwhelming advantage that we enjoy in conventional arms. It's similar to the introduction of the HMS Dreadnought in 1906. Jackie Fisher designed and built a game changing ship: Single caliber main battery, Turbine propulsion, centralized fire control. It made every other battleship afloat obsolete at once. At that point all the world powers got to start from a clean slate and the naval arms race leading up to 1914 began in earnest. We are at the same point, the ability to make our industrial processes more efficient, and easier to manage is not simply tempting, its critical to maintain our competitive edge in the world. But with those advances, we are gaining a great deal of vulnerability. Now utilities are a rather hard target, FERC (Federal Electric Reliability Commission) has directives and standards that control system makers have to meet. They won't be taken down easily by some kid in his parents' basement, but those same requirements do not exist for other industries. While not NCI, disrupting control systems at manufacturing plants and mills would cause economic dis-junction, lost revenues, potentially lost jobs, and a general rise in prices. My real fear is a concerted effort by a foreign power, with the resources and computing power to penetrate a critical system, take control, damage the gear, and perhaps even add fake data to complicate recovery efforts.
As for striking back, there is the potential that we fired the opening shots. Look up the attack on the Iranian uranium centrifuges. If we didn't do it, I bet we gave whoever did a golden slap on the back...
We are creating a completely new battlefield, the problem is we don't have the same overwhelming advantage that we enjoy in conventional arms. It's similar to the introduction of the HMS Dreadnought in 1906. Jackie Fisher designed and built a game changing ship: Single caliber main battery, Turbine propulsion, centralized fire control. It made every other battleship afloat obsolete at once. At that point all the world powers got to start from a clean slate and the naval arms race leading up to 1914 began in earnest. We are at the same point, the ability to make our industrial processes more efficient, and easier to manage is not simply tempting, its critical to maintain our competitive edge in the world. But with those advances, we are gaining a great deal of vulnerability. Now utilities are a rather hard target, FERC (Federal Electric Reliability Commission) has directives and standards that control system makers have to meet. They won't be taken down easily by some kid in his parents' basement, but those same requirements do not exist for other industries. While not NCI, disrupting control systems at manufacturing plants and mills would cause economic dis-junction, lost revenues, potentially lost jobs, and a general rise in prices. My real fear is a concerted effort by a foreign power, with the resources and computing power to penetrate a critical system, take control, damage the gear, and perhaps even add fake data to complicate recovery efforts.
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It was the US or Israel who came up with Stuxnet but like the Dreadnought it showed the way. Now every two bit programmer is working on the improvement that we can't defend against. Siemens ASIC controllers are toast and our nuclear plants have millions of them. Watch poor Iran who has been the object of attacks for generations. Now they are very capable electronic technicians and I am led to believe Tehran university is amongst the best in the world. They reverse engineered our drones and are now attacking the infrastructure of those that attacked them.As for striking back, there is the potential that we fired the opening shots. Look up the attack on the Iranian uranium centrifuges. If we didn't do it, I bet we gave whoever did a golden slap on the back...
We still have no idea do we?
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I don't normally say that the British have something right besides Scotch and Tea, BUT they have a national police service who's only purpose is the protection of their Nuclear plants. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Civil_Nuclear_Constabulary Right now each individual company handles their own security with oversight from the NRC. Hardcore physical security isn't cheap, it requires boots on the ground.