My Neighbor Spotted My Coal

Ed.A wrote:

ddahlgren wrote: Last year had my house for sale and looked there and was high on the list to be honest. Low crime rate and reasonable taxes. At 62 my ideal town has a resident trooper not many kids so small school system and Al and Joe are the entire public works dept. 1 building inspector 1 town clerk etc.

Then Sterling is where you would like. I don't believe they even have Zoning restrictions yet.

Canada is out of the question not going to start a client base from scratch and I heard that Canadian healthcare is worse than what the USA one turned into. Distance wise Sterling might be a reach as I do a lot of work on Long Island but zoning man do I like the sound of that! Sounds like I could build a simple 600 sq. ft cabin and just do a steel building for the shop. Hey no zoning I could build the windmill I had hoped for though just looked at my power bill and used 396 kwh for the month so a 15 kw windmill might be pretty large. Just looked it up 82 ft mast and 30 ft diameter the whole mess is around 3 tons. 82 ft need FAA permission LOL. Never mind...

freetown fred wrote:Hell dd, you're talkin a large version of Freetown. What's zoning???

Same here !

When I was looking to get away from LI's very restrictive zoning laws, about having a business on your property, I found I was "zoned out" of Conn, RI, Mass and Southern VT too.

Started looking around CNY and again lots of zoning until I got away from the bigger towns and villages.

Where I live now, I wrote to the planning commission telling them what I wanted to do and would that be allowed in this village ? They wrote right back and said, there's no zoning laws here, except for no trailer homes allowed in the village. And they wanted to know how soon could I get here ?

Out of 7 houses on this side of my block (near the middle of the village), five have small businesses running out of their residential property, with signs out front, and everyone is cool with it. And, there's several more on the next block south. As long as I don't add a bathroom to my shop, my assessment doesn't go up anymore than if it was just a single family residence property.

Paul

Sounds like a nice spot. How far to an airport and drive to Long Island? Any nearby race tracks for sports cars?

Hell dd, if you're concerned with all that crap, ya mights well stay where ya are. It's like goin to buy a kick ass 4X4 for heavy work & worryin about gas mileage.

Move west young man. I read all these posts about all these laws and restrictions you folks have out east and Im glad I'm where Im at. If I didnt know some of this stuff was true I wouldnt believe it. I cant even imagine ever having a neighbor complain about anything I do unless a stray bullet hit their house. Its worth putting up with the cold weather. And yet, I still think of moving further west to retire, lol

warminmn wrote:Move west young man. I read all these posts about all these laws and restrictions you folks have out east and Im glad I'm where Im at. If I didnt know some of this stuff was true I wouldnt believe it. I cant even imagine ever having a neighbor complain about anything I do unless a stray bullet hit their house. Its worth putting up with the cold weather. And yet, I still think of moving further west to retire, lol

My town wants you to pull a permit to paint your house. Replace a window.. (Just replace no work to the structure) pull a permit. I won't do it. Didn't do and never will do it. If you want to clean out your house and property via a dumpster well they want you to pull a "dumpster permit". The regs and "rules" are endless and often idiotic. Smitty knows what I am talking about. Seriously though you just can't make this stuff up. Hard to believe that a little over 200 years ago the ancestors of many of these same people tossed 'Tea' into the harbor and raised general HELL over the Brits running of the place. They are now SHEEP.

freetown fred wrote:Hell dd, if you're concerned with all that crap, ya mights well stay where ya are. It's like goin to buy a kick ass 4X4 for heavy work & worryin about gas mileage.

Sorry to say I still have to work and I work on race cars and engines and have to go to them. I have several on LI and they make up a good part of what I earn the rest usually require flying. The race track to do support work that pays very well. These are all very high end cars and bikes the cars generally worth between 105k and up to 2.3 million the bikes 20k to 100k this isn't some kid in a Camaro deals. I have 3 ex wives all enjoying my retirement so not working for the joy of it. SS is 1200 a month and that is the reality of things for me.

ddahlgren wrote:Sounds like a nice spot. How far to an airport and drive to Long Island? Any nearby race tracks for sports cars?

Albany airport is two hours, Syracuse airport is about an hour, 45 minutes to Binghamton airport.

If there's not much traffic getting onto the Island, takes me about 3 hours to get out to Nassau County, 3-1/2 to my brother's house out in Sayville.

Yes, there are several race courses within less than an hour. Several more within less than two hours, like Watkins Glen.

Paul

The OP is not stimulating the economy as much as his neighbor ... what a shame

I just got done with a 30' pipe chimney project for a OWB for a distant neighbor of mine, bought a house that had, had a OWB and wanted to install a new one. Since the new reg's kicked in here you can not have one close to the property line without a chimney. I did not buy the fittings or design the thing but if all goes well he should not have to worry about his new neighbors bitching about the smoke. I had to fish mouth a wye on it to allow for a brush to be inserted from the ground. There are two tees on it, one for the smoke pipe and one for the clean out.
He owns about 15 acres but the house only has 150' of road frontage, the property is shape like a "T" with the cross bar being very fat. The OWB is setting next to the garage and falls into the chimney zone under the reg's. One of his neighbors narc'd on him.
I have always had decent neighbors who could care less about what I am doing up here. I did have one neighbors wife complain about our chickens once and me starting my truck at 3am to go to work before I replaced the "custom" exhaust system it had on it. But both times it was to me and not the Local Leo's.
Dan.

I suspect the further you get from a major interstate highway or some state ones like 495 on LI the easier life gets. I am almost willing to bet if you follow I95 there are no suitable towns until at least 30 miles away.

You should come up 395 to the woods, Low-tax-lisbon comes to mind.

ddahlgren wrote:I suspect the further you get from a major interstate highway or some state ones like 495 on LI the easier life gets. I am almost willing to bet if you follow I95 there are no suitable towns until at least 30 miles away.

When I lived on LI, I was a mile from a major highway and it was crowded, but then there are few placers left on LI that aren't. It's a far cry from the dirt roads and wet lands I grew up with on the South Shore in the 1950's and 60's. The 100x135 wooded lot that was across from my last house, now 20 years later has two houses shoe-horned on that property. How they got it subdivide that small is beyond me, but there's a lot of that still going on there.

Now, I'm 15 feet from a state highway in the middle of a medium-sized upstate village and I love it. I've got 8 times the property, a 2500 square foot shop and a 17 room 6000 square foot house - in the historic district, which is a residential neighborhood that is also good for operating a small business from. And all for less in taxes than I was paying to be jammed in in SW Suffolk County and no where down there would I be allowed to have a light industrial type business on my property.

And, all within a few minutes walk of the bank, drug store, post office, a pizzeria, a Chinese restaurant, a BBQ restaurant, liqueur store (2), hardware store, churches (4), super markets(2), combo gas station/quick stores (3). And when I need to go elsewhere, I don't have a traffic light ,or stop sign and lots of traffic at every corner burning up my gas mileage.

In less than a half hour's drive I'm within tens of thousands of aches of State land and State forest - one with special camp sites set up for camping with horses - with 130 miles of riding trails. Many lakes and rivers with free boating & fishing access. Lots of places for camping, hiking and hunting. And several gun clubs.

In a little over an hour I can be in the Adirondacks, the Catskills, the Poconos, or the fingers Lakes.

And no expensive tolls to get to any of it.

Paul

confedsailor wrote:You should come up 395 to the woods, Low-tax-lisbon comes to mind.

That is the direction I am thinking Lisbon Canterbury Griswold maybe Bozarh

Well the upside to Bozrah, you'll have BL&P vice CL&P. However the taxes are super low in Lisbon. Plainfield isn't too bad, other than the 5-O like to hang out in Moosup because of the head shop.