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Post by dad123456 » Thu. Oct. 02, 2014 12:37 pm

What is the highest and safest temperature I could run my Glenwood 116 I will be lining the pot this weekend if it makes a difference I could do 1 inch or 2 inch thick Of noxram Would like to know the limitations of stove

 
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Post by Sunny Boy » Thu. Oct. 02, 2014 1:56 pm

dad123456 wrote:What is the highest and safest temperature I could run my Glenwood 116 I will be lining the pot this weekend if it makes a difference I could do 1 inch or 2 inch thick Of noxram Would like to know the limitations of stove
Well the smart- a$$ answer would be, ... until it melts the stove, then back it down a bit. :D

The original Glenwood firebrick liner would have been one inch thick. Same for the other size Modern Oaks, base heaters, and ranges.

The amount of coal volume that is burning is one of the things that governs how much heat the stove can put out. By adding another inch thickness to that 116 liner you'll lose about 15% of the firepot coal volume. So you don't really gain being able to run it hotter by adding more liner.

I'd stick with what Glenwood figured works best.

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Post by franco b » Thu. Oct. 02, 2014 2:30 pm

Ditto above and 600 degrees is as high as I like to go. On your stove that would be the outside of the fire pot, although higher would not hurt it if lined. 500 on the hottest part of barrel would not be unreasonable.


 
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Post by BPatrick » Thu. Oct. 02, 2014 2:45 pm

The firebox is a little smaller with a 2" liner but it prevents the firebox from warping and allows a more complete burn of the coal and let's you really idle down to lower running temps. I've run my stoves 600-650 with no issues. This is on extremely cold days. I have a big old farm house from mid 1800's. The stove looks like I ran it at 250 all day. These stoves, if restored correctly can handle the heat. You'll be shocked to here Emery talk about what running temps these stoves can handle. I've found that if you need to consistently run a stove over 600 then it's too small a stove for the size home or room your heating and possibly 2 stoves are needed. Now that I run 2 Crawford 40's, in the dead of winter I'll run them at 500-550, rarely at 600.

 
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Post by dad123456 » Thu. Oct. 02, 2014 3:52 pm

as a precaution I ask. I Run a GodIn large now it heats the house . last winter did not turn the heat on at all I talk to the guys at the stove hospital told me That Godin not a good stove the house is 1600 square feet That stove kept the house warm hope the 116 will do even better job

 
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Post by franco b » Thu. Oct. 02, 2014 10:16 pm

dad123456 wrote:as a precaution I ask. I Run a GodIn large now it heats the house . last winter did not turn the heat on at all I talk to the guys at the stove hospital told me That Godin not a good stove the house is 1600 square feet That stove kept the house warm hope the 116 will do even better job
The Glenwood should be much easier and cleaner to shake down and the ash pan much larger.


 
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Post by dlj » Thu. Oct. 02, 2014 10:33 pm

dad123456 wrote:What is the highest and safest temperature I could run my Glenwood 116 I will be lining the pot this weekend if it makes a difference I could do 1 inch or 2 inch thick Of noxram Would like to know the limitations of stove
I would only go to 1 inch lining. You need the room for coal and the fire pot is cast iron so it really is fine. I run my Glenwood #6 up to 800 F without problems. I measure the temperature high on the barrel, so the fire pot level would be above that. I've run it up higher but it's difficult to maintain for any length of time. In the very cold of winter, I'll run consistently between 700 and 800, again, measured high on my barrel... The cast iron fire pot can handle higher temperatures that steel. What I find to be more important is to make sure you don't let ash build up under your grates so that it can touch them on the underside. You can mess your grates up real fast doing that. When I'm running hot, my grates are probably in the 1200 to 1400 temperature range - don't really know, I don't have an optical pyrometer. Get ash touching the ash pan side of the grates at those temps and you'll want to have replacements handy... that being said, don't let ash build up under them and they will run a long time.

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Post by ddahlgren » Fri. Oct. 03, 2014 4:26 am

dlj wrote:
dad123456 wrote:What is the highest and safest temperature I could run my Glenwood 116 I will be lining the pot this weekend if it makes a difference I could do 1 inch or 2 inch thick Of noxram Would like to know the limitations of stove
I would only go to 1 inch lining. You need the room for coal and the fire pot is cast iron so it really is fine. I run my Glenwood #6 up to 800 F without problems. I measure the temperature high on the barrel, so the fire pot level would be above that. I've run it up higher but it's difficult to maintain for any length of time. In the very cold of winter, I'll run consistently between 700 and 800, again, measured high on my barrel... The cast iron fire pot can handle higher temperatures that steel. What I find to be more important is to make sure you don't let ash build up under your grates so that it can touch them on the underside. You can mess your grates up real fast doing that. When I'm running hot, my grates are probably in the 1200 to 1400 temperature range - don't really know, I don't have an optical pyrometer. Get ash touching the ash pan side of the grates at those temps and you'll want to have replacements handy... that being said, don't let ash build up under them and they will run a long time.

dj
This year will see how hard I can push the Crane 404 but the wood stove gets to 700 on a regular basis I would not have a concern until 850. I am in this to make some heat and not a gentleman coal burner That is just before it glows a dull red and don't what to go there.

 
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Post by dad123456 » Fri. Oct. 03, 2014 8:55 am

safe to say I'll never have to run to the stove at 800 degrees but 600 all day will be just fine. Heat my house plus I don't know how the stove puts out heat either I know those nickel pieces will roll the air into the room so we'll see how it goes Wednesday or Thursday thanks

 
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Post by ddahlgren » Fri. Oct. 03, 2014 4:47 pm

I don't know about your stove but can not imagine 600F hurting anything. I would have to think the absolute safest temperature is to not light the stove.

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