LL Pioneer LE Back Vent

joshuajock · Post by **joshuajock** » Tue. Oct. 07, 2014 8:23 pm

Looking to get into coal heating. Currently heating 2 levels (app. 1800 sqft) with Oil/Hot water Baseboard heating. Winters get very cold up here in NY State with a very bone-chilling feeling. I am looking at the LL Pioneer Back Vent with the power vent, col-troll (sp). Any advice on this would be greatly appreciated, I don't want to make a big investment and regret it. I am very new with coal and any advice would be greatly appreciated. Thank You in advance.....

Side Note: I have no vents (for return) in my house, was also told to look into the Comfort Geni for a decent air flow.... any opinions on this would help too.

mozz · Post by **mozz** » Wed. Oct. 08, 2014 7:01 am

I had oil heat and installed a LL on first floor. Saved me money but hard to get the upstairs as warm as the downstairs. Ended up installing a coal boiler in place of the oil and then sold the LL. This happens a lot. If you have room next tot the oil beast, see if you can install a boiler, also look for coal prices near where you live.

blrman07 · Post by **blrman07** » Wed. Oct. 08, 2014 7:30 am

Hey JJ welcome to the forum. Your consideration of the LL Pioneer is a good step. There is a ton of knowledge on this forum. You said that you have baseboard heat and no return vents. That is exactly the way most every place that has baseboard heat is set up. Heating your entire house with a coal stove requires some knowledge regarding air flow in your home. Before we can help you in your decision process we will need some information.

What is the boiler capacity in BTU's.
how oil much do you burn in a winter.
Where do you live. Fill out your avatar as it will help gauge possible coal usage and availability
What is the layout of your home.
Is a coal fired boiler a possibility while you leave your oil boiler in place.

Again welcome to the forum. Fasten your seat belt and put your tray table in the upright and locked position and prepare for takeoff!!!

joshuajock · Post by **joshuajock** » Wed. Oct. 08, 2014 3:21 pm

Last winter I was burning through about 200 gallons a month. I have since sealed a lot of drafty spots in my home (windows, sill plate, basement ceiling) thats where most of my cold was coming into the house. I have no room next to the boiler, the old one was cut out and new one slid in about 12 years ago. The house is kinda choppy meaning that there are a lot of walls upstairs and around corners where the heat would need to go. Was thinking of cutting registers hoping the heat would travel up the stair way and cold air would circulate through the vents. LL Pioneer I am looking at is 90K BTU.

joshuajock · Post by **joshuajock** » Wed. Oct. 08, 2014 3:22 pm

Sorry forgot to mention I live in upstate NY. Way up at the top of the state about as far north as u can go

lsayre · Post by **lsayre** » Wed. Oct. 08, 2014 3:47 pm

joshuajock wrote:Last winter I was burning through about 200 gallons a month. I have since sealed a lot of drafty spots in my home (windows, sill plate, basement ceiling) thats where most of my cold was coming into the house. I have no room next to the boiler, the old one was cut out and new one slid in about 12 years ago. The house is kinda choppy meaning that there are a lot of walls upstairs and around corners where the heat would need to go. Was thinking of cutting registers hoping the heat would travel up the stair way and cold air would circulate through the vents. LL Pioneer I am looking at is 90K BTU.

If you currently have hot water baseboards and an oil boiler, you would be better served with a coal boiler than a coal stove.

titleist1 · Post by **titleist1** » Wed. Oct. 08, 2014 4:10 pm

Do you have coal suppliers in your area or do you have the storage space and are you planning on a TT load delivery?

joshuajock · Post by **joshuajock** » Wed. Oct. 08, 2014 4:21 pm

There are a couple places here that supply coal. Thank you all gor your info. I will weigh the options financially.

Starting Out · Post by **Starting Out** » Wed. Oct. 08, 2014 4:27 pm

If you line Leasure Line stoves look at the WL-110. It's a combination coal/oil boiler. Take out the boiler you have now and put that in. I think it goes for around $4600 or so. The baseboard is the way to go. You will always have even heat through out the whole house. I was going to do the same thing you are thinking about, however this forum changed me mind. I'm going to hook a Keystoker Kaa-2 inline with my oil boiler. It will cost me a little more in the beginning, but the savings will pay off in about 4 yrs.

joshuajock · Post by **joshuajock** » Wed. Nov. 05, 2014 6:00 pm

Well guys I landed myself a LL Pioneer back vent. I'm a little curious about the clearances the dealer said he could "get away with". Especially the power vent (which I have seen some come straight out a window that was closed up) I was told the other day after posting a pic on Facebook that the power vent was way too close to the window there. Please if anyone has any suggestions let me know. Pics are below

Starting Out · Post by **Starting Out** » Thu. Nov. 06, 2014 3:44 pm

Google... power vent clearances, and you will get your answer. They even have a diagram of how it should be installed.

Stoker6268 · Post by **Stoker6268** » Thu. Nov. 06, 2014 4:29 pm

I have no knowlege of clearances to windows for powervents but I would say it looks too close to me. Definitely wouldnt open those windows on a warm winter day.

mike2142 · Post by **mike2142** » Fri. Nov. 07, 2014 1:57 pm

looks good hows it working so far I got mine from upstate my wife loves it we burned 1200 o fuel hope this helps sp far so good

scoobydoo · Post by **scoobydoo** » Fri. Nov. 07, 2014 2:22 pm

Look here at the bottom of the page. http://leisurelinestoves.com/Stove_Products.html It looks good to me.

joshuajock · Post by **joshuajock** » Fri. Nov. 07, 2014 6:22 pm

No I don't plan on opening that window with the power bent running.

LL Pioneer LE Back Vent

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