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Re: Coal quality from various sources

PostBy: PC 12-47E On: Wed Jan 07, 2009 11:51 am

kootch88 wrote:
Why didn't you get Blaschak????


Just started on my 3 tons of Blaschak about a week ago. I was burning Kimmel. So far we notice we are burning about 60 - 70% more Blaschak than Kimmel. We are using Bagged coal in Southern Maine. I am very disappointed in the Blaschak thus far. :mad:


Hi kootch88, Over on the Mid Coast we have two choices for bagged Anthracite. Choice 1, Kimmels nut @ $7.75 for 50# bag = $310. a ton. Choice 2, Blaschak nut @ $7.00 for a 40# bag = $350. A ton.

We have been using Kimmels this winter and the Harman SF-250 has averaged about 400# a week for the last two weeks. I burned three bags of Blaschak early in the season and it seemed to burn faster.

Next week we have to buy another pallet. Kimmels or Blaschak???? What do you think?

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Re: Coal quality from various sources

PostBy: coal berner On: Wed Jan 07, 2009 8:11 pm

mike wrote:FKZ wasn't really in operation in 2007 but they were for the better part of 2008 and still are in 2009. As far as Superior not getting coal from Snake Rd anymore if there not getting it from there they have to get some someplace else. In 2007 B&B deep mine produced 12,390 tons of raw coal, for the 1st 3 quarters of 2008 they produced 10,428 tons. In 2007 the Orchard deep mine produced 12,031 and for the 1st 3 quarters of 2008 they produced 10,981 tons. But as far as I know a month ago they were still getting coal from the Snake Rd., which is alright any way because that is pretty good coal over there.

Mike I am Just telling you what they told me about the snake Rd. I know in 06 B&B had a small strip going To make up for the loss of The R&D Mine . They where Done there by 07. AS far as the Production # They all cheat on the Numbers less
Royalties will have to be Paid in some cases . you know what I mean ;) Them numbers are Funny if you look up Kimmel's
Mining inc. Whites Mine they only mined 548 tons in 2007 Lykens # 3 vein .
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Re: Coal quality from various sources

PostBy: mike On: Wed Jan 07, 2009 8:42 pm

The more accurate numbers by far are the ones on msha website. In some cases the states site doesn't even have the veins right i.e. the have veins listed for some southern field mines that don't even exist in the southern field. The mine that is listed as Kimmels whites vein mine isn't the mine that kimmels was working with the fancy equipment. Kimmels Whites mine is a slope formerly known as Tito just a few hundred feet towards Tower City away from there big deep mine. As far as what Kimmels big mine produced it was on the order of 26,000 +/- tons mostly in one quarter in 2008. And that is about right if you talk to the guys that were there. As far as the numbers for B&B and Orchard being funny if there off there not off by much. for mines that have around 8-12 guys underground there doing all right.
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Re: Coal quality from various sources

PostBy: coal berner On: Wed Jan 07, 2009 9:30 pm

mike wrote:The more accurate numbers by far are the ones on msha website. In some cases the states site doesn't even have the veins right i.e. the have veins listed for some southern field mines that don't even exist in the southern field. The mine that is listed as Kimmels whites vein mine isn't the mine that kimmels was working with the fancy equipment. Kimmels Whites mine is a slope formerly known as Tito just a few hundred feet towards Tower City away from there big deep mine. As far as what Kimmels big mine produced it was on the order of 26,000 +/- tons mostly in one quarter in 2008. And that is about right if you talk to the guys that were there. As far as the numbers for B&B and Orchard being funny if there off there not off by much. for mines that have around 8-12 guys underground there doing all right.

You where missing my point Mike The Numbers if anything would be on the light side By the way I told you a few weeks ago that I was using MSHA site and if I Remember when we talked last you thought B&B & Orchard numbers Production # where heavy for 8 Guys in The B&B Mine And 9 In The Orchard Mine . Anyway I don't really care what the Numbers are I am not making any money off of them :lol:
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Re: Coal quality from various sources

PostBy: mike On: Wed Jan 07, 2009 9:40 pm

The numbers off the MSHA site are about what they should be for a mine of those sizes. The numbers off the state site are way high for the one,by 95,000 tons or so! But anyway the point of my original post was that just because there is stripped mined coal in the mix doesn't make it bad...................look at all the satisfied superior and summit users on here. And as J.C. knows I do make money from Anthracite coal. I work for Jeddo Coal Company and Alfred Brown 7ft. Slope. Just figured I'd throw that in there for arguments sake :lol:
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Re: Coal quality from various sources

PostBy: coal berner On: Wed Jan 07, 2009 10:32 pm

mike wrote:The numbers off the MSHA site are about what they should be for a mine of those sizes. The numbers off the state site are way high for the one,by 95,000 tons or so! But anyway the point of my original post was that just because there is stripped mined coal in the mix doesn't make it bad...................look at all the satisfied superior and summit users on here. And as J.C. knows I do make money from Anthracite coal. I work for Jeddo Coal Company and Alfred Brown 7ft. Slope. Just figured I'd throw that in there for arguments sake :lol:

Yes and Who do you think helped with them Superior & Summit satiisfied custormers
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Re: Coal quality from various sources

PostBy: Nevercold On: Fri Jan 09, 2009 11:36 pm

I bought 7 tons delivered from the TAMAQUA Pa. area for $220/ton/bagged, early Dec 09, to NJ. Butch is a great guy and this is the best coal I've burned. I've burned Blaschak for the past 3 yrs.
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Re: Coal quality from various sources

PostBy: LARRY IRVING On: Tue Jan 13, 2009 2:51 pm

Does anyone know a place near Buffalo I can get a good price on stove coal?.

I have just put in a Hotblast furnace and learning how to use this thing. It has been fun. The best price I can find around here is .16 cents per pound.
Being rather close to Pennsylvania I thought there must be someone selling stove coal at a better price that I could
go and pick it up by the truck load.
Any suggestions would really help
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Re: Coal quality from various sources

PostBy: coal stripper On: Tue Jan 13, 2009 9:03 pm

Can any body tell me what the best rice coal to get for a Harman Magnum stoker? Had centralia and cannot get bagged in area. My choices are Blaschak (ran before had alot of sticks and wood tons of fines too) or Reading ( my buddy runs in an Alaska stoker and likes better than Blaschak) I noticed nobody seem to like Reading but its very easy to get 5 or more dealers carry locally. Blaschak is about an hour away and from past exp we both had alot of crap in it . Thanks
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Re: Coal quality from various sources

PostBy: tvb On: Tue Jan 13, 2009 9:17 pm

Hey Nevercold,

What's the name of the place in Tamaqua?
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Re: Coal quality from various sources

PostBy: coal berner On: Wed Jan 14, 2009 10:35 pm

tvb wrote:Hey Nevercold,

What's the name of the place in Tamaqua?


Here are the coal breaker's in and around the Tamaque area None of them sell bagged coal so who ever he bought the coal from bagged it himself .

http://www.local.com/details/16230350/t ... s-inc.aspx

http://www.local.com/details/8862615/ta ... -coal.aspx

http://www.lcncoal.com/

http://www.local.com/details/16286140/m ... mpany.aspx
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Re: Coal quality from various sources

PostBy: Gary L On: Thu Jan 15, 2009 12:52 am

I live just over the Pa. border in NY. Matamoras, Pa. is about 15 miles and Honesdale, Pa. is about 45 miles.

Can any one tell me where the closest breakers are to me?

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Re: Coal quality from various sources

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Re: Coal quality from various sources

PostBy: hugg On: Thu Jan 15, 2009 1:14 am

Go to Hudson anthracite, which is in pittston (just south of scranton). I believe that is the closest breaker to you. I have been getting coal there at 150.00 ton. I am happy with their coal. Good stuff. :D
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Re: Coal quality from various sources

PostBy: Gary L On: Thu Jan 15, 2009 9:23 am

Thank you C.B. & Hugg.

To make this worthwhile I'll need to find other locals to split the load and costs.

Right now I DIY it and go to a reseller in Honesdale for 2.5 tons which is the max I can haul and what I use for the season, 90 mile round trip.

It would be about 190 miles round trip to Hudson but the savings of around $50/ton won't be worth the extra drive and expense unless I could double my load capacity.

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