Coal quality from various sources

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Re: Coal quality from various sources

PostBy: STU PIDASSO On: Sun Feb 24, 2008 8:00 pm

Well because I was Born Raised & live in the Hart of Anthracite Country If you PM me I will Give you some info All of the Coal Breakers we are talking about sell Bulk Loose Not Bagged coal you must bag it yourself if you want bagged If you have a truck or & A trailer Just Take a ride up here and I will take you to the Breakers[/quote]



JC

Just wanted to let you know it was 4 Dergrees here this morning. I have had no problems with Superior's coal- it burns hot and complete to a dust. yeah maybe more ash , but i don't mind. Basically everything you told me about the chacteristics of this coal is true. i will be back in the late spring for that tractor trailer load. I am done with poor quality and delivery service in my area. this will give me a sense of security.

Dave
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Re: Coal quality from various sources

PostBy: Dallas On: Mon Feb 25, 2008 6:46 pm

Dallas wrote:The Hudson coal doesn't even make enough heat to keep the distribution fan running! :x Maybe, I'll try to burn it up in August.


OK, so the Hudson coal went down the road last night. By 11:30AM, this morning, I had a load of pea from Casey-Kassa in the bin. It has been burning fine all day and making heat as called for by the new thermostatically controlled damper actuator.

In talking to Vince, the weighmaster/loader/clerk/janitor at Casey-Kassa, I told him of the problem I was having with the former nut coal not making any heat, and he said, "I know exactly what you are talking about". He said, "There were no gases in the coal". This is probably confirmed by the fact, that there were no blue flames present, just red coals. Because Vince has been in the coal business since 1947, I put quite a lot of stock in what he has to say about burning coal.

Vince also said, "that even though the coal is processed with magnetite, some of the shale gets through, but even that, will burn". I can probably agree with this, but I don't believe it goes to ash. :?:

I'll reluctantly check on the burn properties of the Hudson nut, when my mud box is returned.
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Re: Coal quality from various sources

PostBy: Richard S. On: Thu Feb 28, 2008 2:32 am

Dallas wrote:
Dallas wrote:The Hudson coal doesn't even make enough heat to keep the distribution fan running! :x Maybe, I'll try to burn it up in August.


OK, so the Hudson coal went down the road last night. By 11:30AM, this morning, I had a load of pea from Casey-Kassa in the bin. It has been burning fine all day and making heat as called for by the new thermostatically controlled damper actuator.


I often got that complaint from customers but was exact opposite companies. :) We stopped going to C-K about 15 years ago. Too much inconsistency in the product and just to add there is lot of barley in the rice. Not sure how it is now.

I can probably agree with this, but I don't believe it goes to ash. :?:


Not completely no, some old timers I delivered too preferred a little bone in it. Their assumption was that it held the fire and heat better. Whether true or not probably won't make a difference with modern stove.
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Re: Coal quality from various sources

PostBy: Dallas On: Thu Feb 28, 2008 9:14 am

Richard S. wrote:Not completely no, some old timers I delivered too preferred a little bone in it. Their assumption was that it held the fire and heat better.


My father always said, "Some stone in the garden was good, as they held the heat".

So, what do you do with a load of coal, which won't make heat? It's sitting there looking bright red and you're freezing. Any of the coal, which comes from "different old mines and veins", probably has a large inconsistency to it. I believe, it's pretty hard to be sure of what you are getting.
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Re: Coal quality from various sources

PostBy: bender On: Fri Feb 29, 2008 3:56 pm

Hello all, I am a new user and am trying to find out where to buy coal?
I am in Northern Illinois and cannot seem to find any information anwhere.
Can anyone out there help me out?
Thank you in advance!
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Re: Coal quality from various sources

PostBy: stoker-man On: Mon Mar 03, 2008 3:41 pm

Hobels Coal in Coplay, PA has quality, low ash, and cleaned deep-mined rice coal from the Centralia area for currently $200/ton. Delivers to the general Lehigh Valley area. Points farther have a delivery charge added. 610 262-3231
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Re: Coal quality from various sources

PostBy: LsFarm On: Mon Mar 03, 2008 5:53 pm

I hope that price of $200/ton includes delivery for a reasonable distance... Most breakers sell their coal for $130-140/ton at the breaker..

Greg L
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Re: Coal quality from various sources

PostBy: coal berner On: Mon Mar 03, 2008 6:52 pm

stoker-man wrote:Hobels Coal in Coplay, PA has quality, low ash, and cleaned deep-mined rice coal from the Centralia area for currently $200/ton. Delivers to the general Lehigh Valley area. Points farther have a delivery charge added. 610 262-3231
The only Deep mine coal in the Centralia PA area is UAE Harmony mine 130.00 a ton Picked up Loose
7 to 9 % Ash content Red ash Lykens # 2 vein and the coal is Dry not washed it will have fines in it All other coal in the Centralia area will be Surace mininig Or Refuse Coal & If Hobels Coal in Coplay Pa And If they are using this Company http://www.centraliacoal.com/a5.html Then you will not know where the coal is coming From Because they are a Coal Broker Company They buy from who ever is the lowest in Price Then They ship it out To the Consumer / dealer


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Re: Coal quality from various sources

PostBy: stoker-man On: Mon Mar 03, 2008 9:47 pm

He sells to people who don't/can't pick up at the mine.
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Re: Coal quality from various sources

PostBy: hell fire On: Sun Mar 09, 2008 11:52 am

can anyone tell me where the UAE mine is located or phone # for open hours. ned
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Re: Coal quality from various sources

PostBy: spc On: Sun Mar 09, 2008 12:18 pm

hell fire wrote:can anyone tell me where the UAE mine is located or phone # for open hours. ned

UAE is placemark 2:
http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?hl=en&ie ... dd2744fc03
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Re: Coal quality from various sources

PostBy: coalstoves On: Sun Mar 09, 2008 1:10 pm

hell fire wrote:can anyone tell me where the UAE mine is located or phone # for open hours. ned


UAE Harmony Mine
1 Harmony Rd, Mt Carmel, PA
(570) 339-4090‎
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Re: Coal quality from various sources

PostBy: mwcougar On: Mon Mar 10, 2008 7:32 pm

i just picked up 2 1/2 ton today. pea bin was getting a little low. :| we stopped at charlie brown on the way back home.... plus diesel is 14 cents cheaper down there. :mad2: we like going to harmony. but next load may be from Lenigs :roll: would love to mix the two..... if we end up going to reading i may get a load of summit which i like best.
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Re: Coal quality from various sources

PostBy: jersey On: Wed Mar 12, 2008 7:25 am

jetto should have posted here friend was very :D with the coal from the jetto he buys pea he likes the burn and he remarked about the size( larger little fines) it's out by hazelton,far for me 120/ton pick up anybody have feed back , mabe good for next year thanks jersey
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Re: Coal quality from various sources

PostBy: LsFarm On: Wed Mar 12, 2008 8:50 am

Jeddo coal can be pretty iffy.. I guess it depends on when you buy. I've burned some pretty bad Jeddo coal... from a supplier in N. Indiana. He had so many complaints that he stopped selling Jeddo, after 5-7 years of bussiness with them.. He found another source this year.

BUT.. several recent reports of Jeddo coal have been very complimentary... So maybe Jeddo stopped reclaiming old coal from coal piles or found an new source or vein of coal.. who knows.. But the recent reports say it is good coal.

The most consistant coal with virtually guaranteed quality is Superior, UAE, Summit and one of the Lennig's breakers.

My next load will probably be Superior or maybe Lennigs.

Greg L

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