Mr. Herald Install UPDATE!!! Am I Forgetting Any Thing?

 
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Post by franco b » Wed. Nov. 05, 2014 12:06 pm

A word of caution if you do use lighter fluid. After that first application put it away and don't even think about adding more to a warm group of briquettes. It will explode.


 
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Post by wsherrick » Wed. Nov. 05, 2014 12:23 pm

Very good. See you can use non electric tools. A good job on the damper install. By this weekend the weather will be cooperative and you should be off and running.
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We were pacing up and down the waiting room along with you waiting for this baby to be born. Cigars and salutations all around the general vicinity.

 
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Post by Sunny Boy » Wed. Nov. 05, 2014 12:29 pm

franco b wrote:A word of caution if you do use lighter fluid. After that first application put it away and don't even think about adding more to a warm group of briquettes. It will explode.
Good point !

It's been over 30 years since I've last used lighter fluid and charcoal bricketts. The first time I used the new VOC BBQ lighter fluid to start my stove, I didn't put enough on to get the bricketts burning well.

Rather than risk adding more lighter fluid to the bricketts in the stove, instead, using BBQ tongs, I took more bricketts from the bag and dunked them in lighter fluid in a clean plastic butter tub. Then I dropped them one at a time into the stove. They caught light slowly, but had plenty enough fluid soaked in to keep burning long enough to get all the bricketts burning on their own.

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Post by McGiever » Wed. Nov. 05, 2014 12:34 pm

Do NOT over do it when squirting briquettes, only in the stone cold stove, you could get a puddle of lighting fluid accumulated in the ash pan that could flash into fire, and this is dangerous.

I like to do the squirtting w/ briquettes in a old coffee can and after a minute to absorb then transfer them into the stone cold stove, after they are all in place then it is safe to light them.

 
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Post by michaelanthony » Wed. Nov. 05, 2014 12:42 pm

Use cowboy charcoal or matchlite, no fluid involved!

 
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Post by nortcan » Wed. Nov. 05, 2014 12:53 pm

Nice installation. I tried many fluids and found the best for me was unscent lamp oïl. Not explosive at all and no odor, works very well .
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Post by UncleDoDat » Wed. Nov. 05, 2014 1:39 pm

michaelanthony wrote:A true soon to be coal burner as UDD could not sleep until that mpd was installed and an AWESOME job doing it! Never though you would be praying for cold weather did yah? :lol:
LMAO!!!!! :lol: Yeah I don't know what came over me. I just couldn't resist the urge. Hell, once installed the urge to burn something, anything was so great. But the wife helped me to suppress my pyromaniac urges as it was 60 degrees last night. I really wanted to test the burn with MPD installed.
franco b wrote:A word of caution if you do use lighter fluid. After that first application put it away and don't even think about adding more to a warm group of briquettes. It will explode.
I actually have some briquettes soaking in lighter fluid for a couple of days now. I have been dreaming about this, so I have been preparing. I'm just about an hour away from ordering a couple tons of coal since I now know that nut size is fine. I just thought it might have been too small for the grates.

Just waiting on the sheet metal guy to get finish both the heat mantel shield as well as the heat shield for the stove.

Hey, you guys are the rock stars here. If it were not for you guys I probably would have paid the 75 bucks and let that horrific company (Wertz inc.) back into my home for more torture. Remember their name so that you don't have to deal with them. They called me yesterday to schedule a date to install the MPD. I gladly told them that I'd be installing it myself.
Now I have a Manometer that needs installing. I'm on a roll. I just wish I could find some visual representation that would help. The Manometer should be installed before the MPD, right?


 
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Post by wsherrick » Wed. Nov. 05, 2014 1:41 pm

No, after the damper.

 
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Post by Photog200 » Wed. Nov. 05, 2014 2:05 pm

wsherrick wrote:No, after the damper.
I hate to disagree with William, but...if you put the manometer after the mpd, you will not see the effect the mpd is having on draft. You do want to put the manometer before the mpd. This way as you shut down the mpd, you can see your reading on the manometer.

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Post by Lightning » Wed. Nov. 05, 2014 2:11 pm

Yes I agree.. the manometer probe needs to be between the stove and MPD. You want to know what the negative pressure is in the stove. It doesn't really matter what the chimney is reading.

 
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Post by wsherrick » Wed. Nov. 05, 2014 2:20 pm

Yes, I see now. What would be the point of putting it after? Thanks guys. I've never used a manometer so I stand corrected.
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Post by Sunny Boy » Wed. Nov. 05, 2014 2:21 pm

I agree also. My mano is plumbed in between the stove and the MPD. I want the mano to be able to tell me what's the MPD's draft affect on the stove, not the chimney.

Paul

Edit: Ok, I see I'm late to the party. :roll:

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Post by UncleDoDat » Wed. Nov. 05, 2014 2:35 pm

Lightning wrote:Yes I agree.. the manometer probe needs to be between the stove and MPD. You want to know what the negative pressure is in the stove. It doesn't really matter what the chimney is reading.
O.k. sounds logical. Where can I get what I need to install the Manometer. Once again that horrific company told me my local stove shop didn't have it. And what exactly will I need. I know the metal pipe of some kind is needed (think it copper, but what is it called), but what connects this to the flu pipe. I can't find a you tube video for visual representation.

 
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Post by scalabro » Wed. Nov. 05, 2014 2:48 pm

I opted for a "Bacharach" Draft Gauge. Just because it is portable and I did not want to look at a permanently mounted instrument on my sexy Crawford.

Plus, if I want to get crazy, I can measure draft anywhere on her simply by drilling a small hole for the gauge tube.
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Post by Lightning » Wed. Nov. 05, 2014 2:49 pm

UncleDoDat wrote:Where can I get what I need to install the Manometer.
Which manometer did you get?


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