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Photog200
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by Photog200 » Fri. Oct. 24, 2014 6:35 pm
nortcan wrote:Photog200 wrote:I found another minor issue, the finial at the post that hooks into the stove has two cracks on either side of the post. Am I correct in assuming the best way to reinforce this area is to braise these cracks on the inside of the finial base? Attaching a photo of the cracks.
Randy
I don't know about it down in the US but the guy here in Tethfordmines who made nickel jobs on my stoves can easily repair things like that crack before the plating. I think that these guys are used to fix some inpecfections on antique stove parts...before the final plating.
If you don't get the nickel done soon, maybe waiting till you decide to have the finition done, those small cracks will not make a big difference on the heating results. Braising/welding them may just make the cracks more apparent, well I think so
I would agree with you Nortcan, unfortunately, it looks like someone dropped the finial base on that rod that goes into the stove. Not only is it cracked but pushed in a little bit. If I braised it now, it would just put a Band-Aid on it. It will depend on what I decide to do with the stove which direction I go with the repair. If I decide to go with a 100% restoration, I would go with a company that you have described. If I keep the stove for myself, I don't mind it the way it is. As you say, it does not affect the operation of the stove at all, in fact , you cannot even see it when it is sitting on the stove.
Randy
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wilder11354
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by wilder11354 » Fri. Oct. 24, 2014 6:39 pm
Randy.. just load it back-up, got an extra $100 plus gas if ya bring down to me. What the heck ya gonna do with 2 stoves anyway???
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Photog200
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by Photog200 » Fri. Oct. 24, 2014 6:44 pm
wilder11354 wrote:Randy.. just load it back-up, got an extra $100 plus gas if ya bring down to me. What the heck ya gonna do with 2 stoves anyway???
Good try... LOL, I absolutely love this stove and I really don't want to get rid of it. I have not made up my mind yet what I am going to do with it. For now, I am going to have new grates cast and line the fire pot. Will see how I feel about it when I get done with that. How much would it cost for another chimney????? LOL
Edit: I have two wood stoves I would bring down to you...
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by nortcan » Fri. Oct. 24, 2014 6:51 pm
Randy, I think that you got a cheap offer for you stove.
Here is a good and better one. No need for you to load the stove and bring it to a member, I will go down to your house and bring the ""Jewell"" up here for free
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Photog200
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by Photog200 » Fri. Oct. 24, 2014 7:02 pm
nortcan wrote:Randy, I think that you got a cheap offer for you stove.
Here is a good and better one. No need for you to load the stove and bring it to a member, I will go down to your house and bring the ""Jewell"" up here for free
You Canadian's are such friendly and accommodating folk, I don't know how I could turn down such an offer...
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wilder11354
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by wilder11354 » Fri. Oct. 24, 2014 7:15 pm
How did I miss that?? you said it wason craigslist? Keep searching... message me when ya find another GEM!!!
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Photog200
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by Photog200 » Fri. Oct. 24, 2014 7:38 pm
wilder11354 wrote:How did I miss that?? you said it wason craigslist? Keep searching... message me when ya find another GEM!!!
It was on the Syracuse Craigslist. I posted the link but nobody was biting...I could not let it go by.
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Photog200
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by Photog200 » Fri. Oct. 24, 2014 7:41 pm
Besides, William threatened us within an inch of our lives that we needed to save this stove....I had to go buy it. That's my story and I am sticking to it.
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by hotblast1357 » Fri. Oct. 24, 2014 8:34 pm
Photog200 wrote:
It was on the Syracuse Craigslist. I posted the link but nobody was biting...I could not let it go by.
Randy
I also had posted this stove on here on the Craigslist thread... What a great find.. Wish I could of gotten it.
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Photog200
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by Photog200 » Fri. Oct. 24, 2014 9:07 pm
hotblast1357 wrote:Photog200 wrote:
It was on the Syracuse Craigslist. I posted the link but nobody was biting...I could not let it go by.
Randy
I also had posted this stove on here on the Craigslist thread... What a great find.. Wish I could of gotten it.
I must have missed it when you posted the thread. I just happened to do a search for coal stoves after I listed a wood stove for sale and saw the listing on CL. I have not been in the market for another stove but this one just kind of spoke to me. It truly is a beautiful stove and am fortunate to have been able to purchase it.
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by Sunny Boy » Fri. Oct. 24, 2014 9:18 pm
Randy,
Luckily it's not bent in too far. If a magnet won't stick to it, careful heating and hammering by someone familiar with that type of work and that hook section can be bent back. Then the cracks can be brazed. Most any good plating shop does that kind of repair work.
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Photog200
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by Photog200 » Fri. Oct. 24, 2014 9:40 pm
Sunny Boy wrote:Randy,
Luckily it's not bent in too far. If a magnet won't stick to it, careful heating and hammering by someone familiar with that type of work and that hook section can be bent back. Then the cracks can be brazed. Most any good plating shop does that kind of repair work.
Paul
Thanks Paul, at least I know the proper repairs can be made! At least this stove was saved from those wood burning heathens! LOL Actually they were burning those fake logs in it and that might be where the grates got warped. Those fake logs with the waxes in them burn really hot.
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Photog200
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by Photog200 » Sat. Oct. 25, 2014 11:20 am
I was just checking out the return flue on the stove to see how the control flap worked. I was surprised to see that when closed so that the gases goes down the flue, it does not completely close off the exhaust port. Is this a common thing in the return flue stoves?
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by wsherrick » Sat. Oct. 25, 2014 11:28 am
How the back pipe is configured differs from stove to stove. Some stoves have holes drilled in the back pipe or base burner damper, some don't. I've noticed that the smaller base heaters don't have this but the larger stoves do. This is a safety feature to insure that there is a positive draft always, I believe. If you can't find any thing warped or broken then I would assume that is the way they wanted it as a safety feature.
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by nortcan » Sat. Oct. 25, 2014 12:08 pm
Photog200 wrote:Sunny Boy wrote:Randy,
Luckily it's not bent in too far. If a magnet won't stick to it, careful heating and hammering by someone familiar with that type of work and that hook section can be bent back. Then the cracks can be brazed. Most any good plating shop does that kind of repair work.
Paul
Thanks Paul, at least I know the proper repairs can be made! At least this stove was saved from those wood burning heathens! LOL Actually they were burning those fake logs in it and that might be where the grates got warped. Those fake logs with the waxes in
them burn really hot.
To protect the grates, I put fire bricks (broken ones, to be able to fit them in the small fire pot of the Golden) on the grates when burning eco-logs / fake logs.