New Guy Here_ Question on Herald Oak _ O.K. Lot of Questions
- windyhill4.2
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I don't think any customers have yet noticed,my smeller is very sensitive. Thanks for the tip about the hardwood chips,maybe some hardwood pellets ??
- Underdog
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- Hand Fed Coal Stove: Herald Oak 14 1904
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- Coal Size/Type: nut/ stove Kimmel's
- Other Heating: oil
Bought my first bag of coal. I found coal in a few places. Some places only sell it by the pallet in bags. Other places offered coal in 40 pound or sometimes 50 pound bags. The place I purchased my bag of coal from stored the coal outside in the weather on a pallet. I purchased one 40 pound bag for around $7. The 50 pound bags at the other place cost around $8 each. None of the vendors offered coal delivered in bulk, it is all bagged. Of course as soon as I got home, I did read here on NEPACrossroads that coal is selling at my local Tractor Supply for $4.99 for a forty pound bag.
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- Underdog
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- Other Heating: oil
Are baseburners a better investment? If I like coal, and I consider going the route of having the Herald restored, would it be worth my while to consider mothballing the Herald and finding a Glenwood Baseheater to run instead? As a newcomer I've been reading all the threads on "explosions" and such. It the a baseheater like the Glenwood has been designed to overcome those issues it would seem to be a prudent investment (as appealing as running the original stove is). Those buff backs seem far more common than I would have imagined. Even among people with far more experience.
- DePippo79
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http://vimeo.com/3060371
Underdog, this is another well made video. Welcome to coal. Take care of that house and stove. Matt
PS. If you post your location maybe a member could come help you out.
Underdog, this is another well made video. Welcome to coal. Take care of that house and stove. Matt
PS. If you post your location maybe a member could come help you out.
- ONEDOLLAR
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Underdog
WELCOME!!! You have a wonderful stove. One that will serve you and your family well with a little TLC.
I know it can be hard to believe when people make statements of getting 12 + hour burn times with coal. It runs contrary to what we know about how wood stoves work and the claims woodstove manufactures makes about burn times. But coal is the real deal. 12 hour burn times are very commmon if not almost the norm for most hand fed coal stoves and the temperature stays constant as well. Literally set it and forget it. Factor that with the avordability of coal and coal becomes almost no brainer for keeping your home warm and your wallet full of more cold hard cash.
Seriously though let us know a general location of your home. As FREETOWN FRED would say... "Ain't' nobody going to steal ya!" There is a good chance a fellow NEPA member may be able to give you a hand in person.
Don't fret over puffbacks. Puffbacks happen 99.9999% of the time when people rush the loading process and are taking short cuts. I have in the past had a puff back with a wood stove. Never with coal.
WELCOME!!! You have a wonderful stove. One that will serve you and your family well with a little TLC.
I know it can be hard to believe when people make statements of getting 12 + hour burn times with coal. It runs contrary to what we know about how wood stoves work and the claims woodstove manufactures makes about burn times. But coal is the real deal. 12 hour burn times are very commmon if not almost the norm for most hand fed coal stoves and the temperature stays constant as well. Literally set it and forget it. Factor that with the avordability of coal and coal becomes almost no brainer for keeping your home warm and your wallet full of more cold hard cash.
Seriously though let us know a general location of your home. As FREETOWN FRED would say... "Ain't' nobody going to steal ya!" There is a good chance a fellow NEPA member may be able to give you a hand in person.
Don't fret over puffbacks. Puffbacks happen 99.9999% of the time when people rush the loading process and are taking short cuts. I have in the past had a puff back with a wood stove. Never with coal.
- dad123456
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- Coal Size/Type: large anthracite
- Other Heating: oil
coal has learning curve to it wood is easy With coal there is a lot of trial and error every stove is different up you'll have to learn yours example run the stove this year with the ash door the way it is fix them next year the stove will run different I don't know what you do for work but you could restore the stove youslef it not very hard as long as it needs no welding all the tricks are all right hear In these threads I have seen your final on the Internet for as little as 75 bucks I restore my stove this year Took a bought 3 weeks but that me I'll post pic
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- Underdog
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- Other Heating: oil
This is a beautiful restoration. Did you find someone locally to re-plate all the nickel or did you ship those parts away? Did you use some type of sealant on the joints to get a tight stove? Paint or stove polish on the cast iron? Again, really nice job. Inspiring.dad123456 wrote:I restore my stove this year Took a bought 3 weeks but that me I'll post pic
I have not been able to find a photo on the internet of what that decorative top piece is supposed to look like on my Herald.
- dad123456
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All the stuff I used was from ace hardware Rutland products polish looks the best I think .High temp silicon on the doors and wax paper you'll find It on a thread as far as the nickel I sent it out to a guy in Rhode Island I'm from Mass Your stove would run about $400 mine was a little more I went a little extreme as far as the rest of the stuff just a lot of elbow grease also there's a lot of pride in bringing back something that's over a hundred years old And still Works don't be afraid just do it
- Underdog
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- Other Heating: oil
I found something similar however the top skirt is more decorative than my #14 Herald with more scrolling. Mine is rather plain.
The lower part of my finial has some slots where a top decorative piece with fit into. This one's different. Of course what I have there may not be original. Are there catalogs from the company? I should probably start a new "restore" thread somewhere.
The lower part of my finial has some slots where a top decorative piece with fit into. This one's different. Of course what I have there may not be original. Are there catalogs from the company? I should probably start a new "restore" thread somewhere.
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- dad123456
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when I posted I couldn't see the stove or what shape the nickel was in I saw it in your avatar look in good shape you can probably get away with a polish also it looks like you r missing the two or three nickel heat rings around the stove
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there is no absolute here. if the nickel is tight and not flaking or damaged and you like it, just clean and polish it.
if it is kind of messed up, you have the time and cash to send it out, go ahead. just be careful with the plating people, you want nickle not chrome.
steve
if it is kind of messed up, you have the time and cash to send it out, go ahead. just be careful with the plating people, you want nickle not chrome.
steve
- dad123456
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when I posted I couldn't see the stove or what shape the nickel was in. is the stove in the avatar yours? in some cases you can get away with polish but if not it needs to be nickel your chose take some pic