Late Start With Coaltrol, Fire Went Out!

late start with coaltrol, fire went out!

PostBy: dutch On: Thu Oct 23, 2014 9:20 pm

it's late here, and as I got the coaltrol hooked up, I confused myself with the plugs

i have alaska channing III
i have a stoker feed motor, which was on the dial to control feed rate,
combustion blower
direct vent blower
fume switch
and convection blower

i always had 3 plugs to plug into the power strip or splitter. convection fan,
then I had 2 others from the back of the stove. some were connected to each other.

so I followed what I thought was right, convection blower is easy
stoker has the main plug, then the connectors that went to other motors, so I plugged
the main plug into the coaltrol. initially the rheostat dial was still hooked to it's plug.

i put the combustion fan and direct vent fan on a power strip ,and they got plugged into
the combustion fan outlet on the coaltrol so they run continuously.

after I got the stove started, I was reading the setup stuff and I unplugged the old rheostat
feed controller. then came back up and was setting the clock, min, max etc.. after a while I
went back down and had almost no fire.

so now I have plugged in the old feed rate control dial and am controlling the stove with it.

what have I done wrong? does the old rheostat control stay in the loop and then get plugged
into the coaltrol?
dutch
 
Hot Air Coal Stoker Furnace: Alaska Channing III

Re: late start with coaltrol, fire went out!

PostBy: dutch On: Thu Oct 23, 2014 9:22 pm

oh, and neil sent me the pigtail for the fume switch, I wired it into the switch
and plugged into the coaltrol. there's a power cord coming from that switch,
is that not needed anymore??
dutch
 
Hot Air Coal Stoker Furnace: Alaska Channing III

Re: late start with coaltrol, fire went out!

PostBy: dutch On: Thu Oct 23, 2014 10:37 pm

i think I found my problem. I need to rewire the feed controller directly so it powers into the
coal trol and eliminate the alaske feed controller wires at the junction block.
i'll work on that tomorrow when I have more time. it is running now, but the old
feed controller is setting feed rate. will probably lose the fire once the thermostat
stops calling for heat!
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dutch
 
Hot Air Coal Stoker Furnace: Alaska Channing III

Re: late start with coaltrol, fire went out!

PostBy: Rick 386 On: Thu Oct 23, 2014 11:05 pm

Dutch,

Re read the directions. I'm sure it spells everything out.

Without me seeing the directions, I would wire the fume switch to have it plugged directly into a dedicated 110v source. The other end of the fume switch would be where you connect the power cord for the coaltrol. The idea being if the fume switch trips, it cuts power to the coaltrol thereby cutting off the stove from continuing to burn.

I also think the direct vent also has to be hooked up to its own 110v circuit. The idea being that nothing would prevent the direct vent from operating.........

Then connect your feed, convection, and combustion fans into the coaltrol if there are enough places to do so. This way the coaltrol controls the actions of the stove itself.

You will be eliminating the Alaska rheostat. The coaltrol takes the place of that ancient device......

Again read the directions !!!!!

Rick
Rick 386
 
Stoker Coal Boiler: AA 260 heating both sides of twin farmhouse
Hot Air Coal Stoker Stove: LL Hyfire II w/ coaltrol in garage
Coal Size/Type: Pea in AA 260, Rice in LL Hyfire II
Other Heating: Gas fired infared at work

Re: late start with coaltrol, fire went out!

PostBy: dutch On: Tue Nov 04, 2014 1:47 pm

wanted to update the thread
the coaltrol has been running the stove very nicely since last
thursday nite when I started it up. my mistakes in the initial
install were I had not isolated the stoker control to the coaltrol
and it was getting confused seeing feed from the original alaska
feed controller.

i have put the thermostat upstairs, right next to my furnace
thermostat, and the stove is in the basement. I have
a convection duct from the top of the stove feeding into the furnace cold air return directly
above the stove. we run with the furnace fan on to circulate the air,
it works very well as we have shut off heat to rooms that we are not
using, including the 2nd floor of this cape cod (poorly insulated)

so far so good, temps have been within 2 degrees of my set point since
i started the stove, today i'm sure it's idling and will check shortly when
i head home for lunch.
dutch
 
Hot Air Coal Stoker Furnace: Alaska Channing III