Well tank relocation

Well tank relocation

PostBy: e.alleg On: Fri Feb 15, 2008 10:30 am

I want to put my coal bin exactly where the deep well line comes in through the basement, there is a pressure tank/4 square switch right next to the wall there. Can I just move the whole tank/switch assembly 30 feet from the wall and run the inlet water line up the wall and along the floor joists, or is there a reason they put it so close to the wall?
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Re: Well tank relocation

PostBy: LsFarm On: Fri Feb 15, 2008 11:47 am

You can put it anywhere you want.. the only consideration would be to install a shut-off valve at the wall, so you can cut off the water in the event of a leak or repairs needed.

Be careful removing the old pipe connections.. you don't want to have to dig outside to replace a piece of pipe that got damaged when you tried to remove an old rusty fitting...

Greg L

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Re: Well tank relocation

PostBy: e.alleg On: Fri Feb 15, 2008 1:29 pm

thanks for the advice, I see what you mean by possibly digging a 8' hole in the yard. No thanks I think I'll wait until the summer.
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Re: Well tank relocation

PostBy: liltractornut72 On: Fri Feb 15, 2008 9:34 pm

Do not install the valve before the pressure switch/tank in case it accidently gets closed.
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Re: Well tank relocation

PostBy: LsFarm On: Fri Feb 15, 2008 10:54 pm

Depending on how long the pipe run is from the wall entrance point to the tank and pressure switch, there might me a lot of fittings and opporturnitys for leaks... For me, I'd install a valve and if there is a concern about the valve being closed, I'd safety wire it in the open position and put a tag on it stating that it is to stay open.

greg L.

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Re: Well tank relocation

PostBy: Wood'nCoal On: Fri Feb 15, 2008 11:52 pm

e.alleg wrote:thanks for the advice, I see what you mean by possibly digging a 8' hole in the yard. No thanks I think I'll wait until the summer.


Exactly why I haven't addressed the well problem I have. Seems the dip tube must be corroded through somewhere. The inside well pump was gone when I bought the place. I have to dig down and locate the well, I should be able to drop a jet pump down it and install a collar to above ground level.
CELLAR WATER 3.jpg
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Other Heating: Fisher Fireplace Insert

Re: Well tank relocation

PostBy: liltractornut72 On: Sat Feb 16, 2008 8:09 am

If you use a valve make sure you a full port valve so there will be no restriction.I would suggest no valve,if you have a leak you will need to turn the electric off to the pump either way to stop the leak or before you close the valve.In a hurry if there is a leak are they going to remember to turn the electric off or just close the valve.If they just turn the valve off this make one heck of a mess.
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Re: Well tank relocation

PostBy: LsFarm On: Sat Feb 16, 2008 5:00 pm

AH !! I get your point now... I guess I'm a fanatic about valves.. so many times Ive had to drain so much to get a simple leak fixed... I install valves everywhere... and yes they are full flow valves.. no restrictions... And I install a lot of unions... Probably spend 20-30% more than needed on any given plumbing job :? :roll: :roll: :D

But I can shut of and drain, repair or modify a system in record time, with minimum spillage... :lol: :D

Greg L
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Re: Well tank relocation

PostBy: liltractornut72 On: Sun Feb 17, 2008 1:33 pm

It sure is nice to have lots of valve,what a pain to solder with water in the pipes.I have been at a couple houses where there are no shutoff valves at all . :up:
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Re: Well tank relocation

PostBy: Wood'nCoal On: Sun Feb 17, 2008 1:47 pm

liltractornut72 wrote:It sure is nice to have lots of valve,what a pain to solder with water in the pipes.I have been at a couple houses where there are no shutoff valves at all . :up:


An old plumber's trick:
Obviously if there is standing water in the pipe there's not much you can do about it, such as in a vertical pipe with no way to drain it, but in other situations such as a horizontal pipe that has a seeping valve closer to the supply or water trickling from it there is a way to temporarily stop the flow long enough to sweat the fitting: Get a piece of white bread (that's right--bread) and stuff it into the pipe, pack it in good and push it up the pipe as far as you can. After sweating the fittings and turning the water back on open the water line and stand back. the bread plug usually blows out with quite a bit of force.
If a faucet is at the end of the line, remove the aerator first.
I've done this and it works. Stay away from the multi-grain stuff, doesn't work as well.
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Stoker Coal Boiler: 1959 EFM 350
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Re: Well tank relocation

PostBy: e.alleg On: Sun Feb 17, 2008 6:21 pm

I did the bread trick when I soldered my DHW coil in. Worked pretty good. One thing I learned is no matter how much swearing or in a rush I am the solder won't stick to a wet pipe, not even temporarily.
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Re: Well tank relocation

PostBy: LsFarm On: Sun Feb 17, 2008 8:01 pm

One reason I like valves and unions, is that I run a water/glycol mix in my boilers, and my in slab heat in the shop... So I can't just drain and refill. I have to capture, store and pump back in any system fluid I need to drain.. :( 8-) :x

Greg L

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Re: Well tank relocation

PostBy: Wood'nCoal On: Sun Feb 17, 2008 8:05 pm

e.alleg wrote:I did the bread trick when I soldered my DHW coil in. Worked pretty good. One thing I learned is no matter how much swearing or in a rush I am the solder won't stick to a wet pipe, not even temporarily.


Been there, done that. :x
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Stoker Coal Boiler: 1959 EFM 350
Hand Fed Coal Stove: Harman Magnafire Mark I
Coal Size/Type: Rice and Chestnut
Other Heating: Fisher Fireplace Insert