Kidde CO Monitor

Sunny Boy · Post by **Sunny Boy** » Fri. Oct. 31, 2014 10:53 am

It depends on level of exposer, and the individual. Hopefully the coal smell gives a warning, but not always. Some people's sense of smell is not good enough.

And there are many cases of people dying during the day time hours. Some get flu like symptoms and ignore the exposer thinking they will just have to deal with being sick. They get sicker, then disoriented, tired, and can't think straight to get out of the exposed area and into fresh air. They get drowsy and doze off. There have been many people found dead in their living room chairs.

And, even if you go in and out of the exposed area, the affects can be cumulative because it takes time for it to get out of your system.

Buddy's wife got sick over the course of a couple of nights driving to night school during winter. Went to the Doc thinking it was flu. Turned out to be a leaking exhaust in their 1960's car with the windows closed and heater on.

My father grew up with coal heat. He said he often woke up with head aches when the coal furnace was on. The irony is that his father was a safety engineer for Travelers Insurance Co.

Paul

freetown fred · Post by **freetown fred** » Fri. Oct. 31, 2014 11:34 am

AND, the CO alarm will go off whether you're asleep or not:) Makes me wonder when I hear of people only having 1 CO alarm in their house. Oh well, ya can lead a horse to water,

windyhill4.2 · Post by **windyhill4.2** » Fri. Oct. 31, 2014 11:45 am

FF, I got the part about not putting a detector in the bathroom (farts & stink will set it off) can't lay it on the stove ( plastic will melt & batteries will explode) not supposed to put it within 20' of the stove,but is it ok to put it that close to the stove if there is a wall about 4" thick between it & the stove or will the stink in the coal go thru the wall with less than 20' ?Do you think I should follow the instructions included in the package or find some other way to do it ?? For some reason I always thought that CO was heavier than air & would require mounting the detector low like propane detectors are.

Post by **Lightning** » Fri. Oct. 31, 2014 1:24 pm

Right, propane is heavier than air and tends to accumulate on the floor. Carbon monoxide is slightly lighter and so close to the average density of air that it will readily become a homogeneous mixture and distribute evenly.

windyhill4.2 · Post by **windyhill4.2** » Fri. Oct. 31, 2014 3:09 pm

Thanks ,Lightning ,i sorta figured that what with the detectors instructions of mounting high.

Stoker6268 · Post by **Stoker6268** » Fri. Oct. 31, 2014 3:19 pm

I don't know who is serious and who isnt in this post anymore. CO by itself doesnt "stink". It is colorless and odorless. That is what the CO detector picks up, not the smell. My understanding is approx 4 off the floor. Not exposed to high temps and generally not in kitchens I think due to grease in the air from range.
And if you have "stink" in your house from the coal stove you got problems!

freetown fred · Post by **freetown fred** » Fri. Oct. 31, 2014 3:37 pm

LOL---you are absolutely correct S6

Post by **Lightning** » Fri. Oct. 31, 2014 4:15 pm

Stoker6268 wrote:I don't know who is serious and who isnt in this post anymore. CO by itself doesnt "stink". It is colorless and odorless. That is what the CO detector picks up, not the smell. My understanding is approx 4 off the floor. Not exposed to high temps and generally not in kitchens I think due to grease in the air from range.
And if you have "stink" in your house from the coal stove you got problems!

freetown fred wrote:LOL---you are absolutely correct S6

Of course CO doesn't stink.
The sulfur compounds in the coal exhaust do.
Could you guys at least try to keep up here??
Just kidding of course..

windyhill4.2 · Post by **windyhill4.2** » Fri. Oct. 31, 2014 6:03 pm

Now, serious question. Do I need to install a CO detector in my shop,no coal burner in shop but the coal boiler in the truck box is 80' away. When we had the OWB we would get smoke smell in the shop if wind & humidity conditions were right & I have smelled coal fumes a few times. So should we be concerned enough to install CO detector ??

lsayre · Post by **lsayre** » Fri. Oct. 31, 2014 6:06 pm

windyhill4.2 wrote:Now, serious question. Do I need to install a CO detector in my shop,no coal burner in shop but the coal boiler in the truck box is 80' away. When we had the OWB we would get smoke smell in the shop if wind & humidity conditions were right & I have smelled coal fumes a few times. So should we be concerned enough to install CO detector ??

It couldn't hurt, and it might help. Cheap insurance....

windyhill4.2 · Post by **windyhill4.2** » Fri. Oct. 31, 2014 6:43 pm

Thanks, Larry, another thing to get done soon.

windyhill4.2 · Post by **windyhill4.2** » Fri. Oct. 31, 2014 9:17 pm

waldo ,that is a good one,but it will give false alarm in the bathroom (stink sets it off) the shower ? (will it work in the shower) ??

Loco627 · Post by **Loco627** » Fri. Oct. 31, 2014 10:45 pm

All this talk about CO detectors and my two new ones show up today!

One to replace the plug in unit that lost in a game of static electricity + great Dane = dead co detector. The other is a fancy new one that theoretically emails me if it goes off and hopefully allows enough time for me to get home and rescue previously mentioned great Dane!

grumpy · Post by **grumpy** » Fri. Oct. 31, 2014 10:51 pm

Some time ago I had a smoke/CO and explosive gas detector, but I can't find one anymore, anyone here know of one? I think it was a Kiddy...?

Loco627 · Post by **Loco627** » Fri. Oct. 31, 2014 11:04 pm

grumpy wrote:Some time ago I had a smoke/CO and explosive gas detector, but I can't find one anymore, anyone here know of one? I think it was a Kiddy...?

Kidde Nighthawk, you can find them on amazon.