Piping the Returns on an EFM

 
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Post by Sting » Wed. Nov. 05, 2014 7:32 am

northernmainecoal wrote:Here's what we did
That fine - most often done like that - but it creates a 1/2 deep dam the hold back fluid in the vessel

Using that fitting and drain tap, I would have turned it on clocking the reducing branch down

If you would have used a straight TEE there with the branch pointed up - then you could have added a nipple and a reducing elbow = that would have allowed complete drain to hose and a spot to wash out the boiler

NOTHING WRONG with what you picture - Nice work but if we are [attempting to] teaching a better way you posted a nice example

 
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Post by northernmainecoal » Wed. Nov. 05, 2014 7:45 am

Thanks Sting, that was my intention after reading your post about pooling behind the bushing. It works for me, but now I know there is a better way

 
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Post by Rob R. » Wed. Nov. 05, 2014 7:49 am

northernmainecoal wrote:Here's what we did
I assume that center pipe is offset enough to allow future install (and removal) of a tankless coil? ;) Nice EFM by the way, it looks pretty new.

 
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Post by northernmainecoal » Wed. Nov. 05, 2014 8:06 am

Yes, it is offset for just that reason. Thanks! We bought it new last January and it's been running ever since (minus shutting it down to clean a couple times)


 
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Post by Berlin » Wed. Nov. 05, 2014 10:07 am

Rob R. wrote:
windyhill4.2 wrote:How come the EFM folks didn't do their install that EXACT way?
Something else that I haven't seen brought up is the difference in expansion rates of copper and steel. If you pipe it as Scott pictured there is some forgiveness via the threaded joints. In a system that experiences a lot of temperature swings the copper sandwiched between the two return ports will have repeated stress on the soldered joints. I have no idea if that matters or not, but I've already had to cut out one piece of copper between the return ports due a failed joint. :gee:
I agree with that, I've come across two other coal boilers that had copper straight between the T's and ended up having bad sweat joints.

 
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Post by Phil May » Wed. Nov. 05, 2014 10:15 am

Scott
Who in their right mind would use a pipe wrench to remove a bushing or nipple. That why we have cutting torches. pipe wrenches are for putting pipe together not taking it apart. Come on man?

 
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Post by Sting » Wed. Nov. 05, 2014 10:26 am

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That's a fantastic idea Phil

Lets drag the torch into a tinderbox basement and light that candle!

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Post by Phil May » Wed. Nov. 05, 2014 11:01 am

God hates a coward Sting.


 
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Post by Sting » Wed. Nov. 05, 2014 11:08 am

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Post by Scottscoaled » Wed. Nov. 05, 2014 11:18 pm

This thread is getting interesting :lol: :lol: :lol:

 
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Post by coal stoker » Fri. Oct. 16, 2015 8:13 pm

This is how I piped mine, followed the examples I found here.

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Post by Scottscoaled » Sun. Oct. 23, 2016 8:14 pm

Revisiting this thread. There has been some inquiries as to the correct way to fit up the returns on an EFM. I do advise to include the info from Sting if there is enough room to install it.

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