help with setting on coal-Trol

help with setting on coal-Trol

PostBy: jiml268 On: Mon Nov 17, 2014 12:44 pm

I am a newbie to coal stoves and need some help with my setting. I got the stove up and running but can't get the temperature over 72 F. I just got the house and the stove came with it. The stove is a Reading Juniata RSFD-10. I am running it with the setting that the old owner had programmed. The temperature at the themastat does not go over 73 F. It goes back and forth between 72 & 73 but not go over that. Here are the setting on the coal-Trol

Deg F
Min 6
Max 28
Ign n
Fsa
D 530a
D 78F
N temp
N 78F
Cft 8

I believe the fr rate should change based on the coal that need to be fed but mine shows 99 all the time

Any help on what I should do to get the temp up to the request 78F would be appreciated. Its starting to get real cold it PA and this would be a great help. Don't want to have to use the baseboard heating.

Thanks you for any help
jiml268
 
Hot Air Coal Stoker Stove: reading rsfd-10

Re: help with setting on coal-Trol

PostBy: WNY On: Mon Nov 17, 2014 9:02 pm

if your at FR99, then it's feeding Maximum amount. how is the flames on the stove?, is there about 1" ash at the end of the grate? if not, then the MAX setting needs to be adjusted. the feed rate will adjust automatically, you can adjust it thru the coaltrol it's based on the min max and room setpoints.

post a pic of your stove running at FR99.

Maybe the MAX needs to be raised a little depending on how much flames you have on the stove. Only change it about 2 points at time.

It takes a lot of time for coal to respond, an hour or more depending on how much you change the temperature settings. I wouldnt; run more than 1 or 2 degrees difference, it takes too long to get up to heat, then it will overshoot and take a while to cool back down, most of us just leave it at a set temperature.

it's quite possible the stove is not big enough to heat/maintain the temperature or raise it. depending on the heat loss in the house or it just needs some adjustments in the settings. 78 IS pretty high temp setting, like I said above, the stove may not be big enough to produce that much temperature rise.
WNY
 
Hot Air Coal Stoker Stove: Keystoker 90K, Leisure Line Hyfire I
Coal Size/Type: Rice
Stove/Furnace Make: Keystoker, LL & CoalTrol
Stove/Furnace Model: 90K, Hyfire I, VF3000 Soon

Re: help with setting on coal-Trol

PostBy: jiml268 On: Mon Nov 17, 2014 11:49 pm

I will take a picture of the flame tomorrow or Wed I turned it off for now waiting to hear back about the setting. Didn't wait to burn coal for no reason. I will also change the max feed by 2 to see if that helps. There was about an inch or so of ash with the current settings.


Thanks for getting back to me

Have a good night
jiml268
 
Hot Air Coal Stoker Stove: reading rsfd-10

Re: help with setting on coal-Trol

PostBy: WNY On: Tue Nov 18, 2014 7:15 am

as long you're not pushing hot coals off the end of the grate, the max is pretty close if your FR is at 99. 1" of ash approx is goo. You can probably bump it up a couple points, but keep and eye on the hot coals, a couple won't hurt, but you don't want to waste coal. and get a good burn.

is your stove connected to any ductwork, is it in thebasment?
WNY
 
Hot Air Coal Stoker Stove: Keystoker 90K, Leisure Line Hyfire I
Coal Size/Type: Rice
Stove/Furnace Make: Keystoker, LL & CoalTrol
Stove/Furnace Model: 90K, Hyfire I, VF3000 Soon

Re: help with setting on coal-Trol

PostBy: jiml268 On: Tue Nov 18, 2014 7:25 am

Yes the stove is in the basement.. There is one duct that is being used to get the heat up to the 1st fl.
jiml268
 
Hot Air Coal Stoker Stove: reading rsfd-10

Re: help with setting on coal-Trol

PostBy: dutch On: Tue Nov 18, 2014 10:25 am

where is the coaltrol located? if it's upstairs, you aren't getting enough
air there,
if it's downstairs, as others have said, post pictures of your fire in the stove

as far as not burning now, any heat you generate with that stove will reduce
the amount of other fuel you burn to heat the home, and i would expect
for a lot less $$.

did you perform any maintenance or cleaning of the stove before you
started it?
dutch
 
Hot Air Coal Stoker Furnace: Alaska Channing III

Re: help with setting on coal-Trol

PostBy: jiml268 On: Tue Nov 18, 2014 10:48 am

The coal-trol thermostat is located on the first floor in the living room.

The only maintenance that was performed was the pipes leading from the stove to the chimney were removed and cleaned out. And all lose ash was vacuumed from the stove.

as far as not burning now, any heat you generate with that stove will reduce
the amount of other fuel you burn to heat the home, and i would expect
for a lot less $$.
Didn't think of it that way. That makes sense. Will start it up as soon as I get home tonight.

Any suggestions on how long to leave it running before I take the pictures.
jiml268
 
Hot Air Coal Stoker Stove: reading rsfd-10

Re: help with setting on coal-Trol

PostBy: dutch On: Tue Nov 18, 2014 11:07 am

let the stove settle in after you start it, where you have a consistent pattern
of fire and ash, shouldn't take more than an hour i would think...

what is the temp of the room in the basement where the stove is?
are you able to open a basement doorway to help bring more air upstairs?
dutch
 
Hot Air Coal Stoker Furnace: Alaska Channing III

Re: help with setting on coal-Trol

PostBy: jiml268 On: Tue Nov 18, 2014 11:29 am

The basement door can be left open, but the basement does not get that hot either. When I take the pictures I will also get the temperature in the following rooms and post them (Basement near coal stove, living room where thermostat is, dining room where vent is located).
jiml268
 
Hot Air Coal Stoker Stove: reading rsfd-10

Re: help with setting on coal-Trol

PostBy: jiml268 On: Tue Nov 18, 2014 10:53 pm

Here are the pictures that were requested.

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I have also included a picture of the thermometer attached to the coal stove. The temp of the stove is not reaching 300F the burn Zone.
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Here are the temp reading I took

Basement 55F
Near vent on 1st fl 63F
Near thermostat 70F (base board heat is also on since it is so cold tonight)
jiml268
 
Hot Air Coal Stoker Stove: reading rsfd-10

Re: help with setting on coal-Trol

PostBy: dutch On: Tue Nov 18, 2014 11:14 pm

the fire looks max to me,

i'm not familiar with that stove, but you said you have a duct coming off the top
to go upstairs , are the front vents open and allowing warm air to come out
the front of the stove also? you may want to shut them to direct all the warm
air upstairs. the sides of the stove should give off plenty of heat for the basement.

does the stove seem hot? it looks to be running at full tilt and should be quite
hot..
dutch
 
Hot Air Coal Stoker Furnace: Alaska Channing III

Re: help with setting on coal-Trol

PostBy: jiml268 On: Tue Nov 18, 2014 11:25 pm

The vents on the stove are currently closed do the warm air is not going out through there.

The stove is hot to the touch but the thermometer attached is not reaching 300F. Don't know what the temp of the stove should be when running full tilt. Think it should be a lot hotter then that.
jiml268
 
Hot Air Coal Stoker Stove: reading rsfd-10

Re: help with setting on coal-Trol

PostBy: BigJohn On: Wed Nov 19, 2014 11:14 am

How is the draft? How hot is the flue pipe? Is the heat going up the Chimney
BigJohn
 
Hot Air Coal Stoker Stove: Leisure Line Pioneer X2
Coal Size/Type: Rice

Re: help with setting on coal-Trol

PostBy: jiml268 On: Wed Nov 19, 2014 11:38 am

This may sound like a dumb question, but how can I tell how the draft is and if the heart is going up the chimney. Unfortunately I know nothing about the stove.

The flue pipe is hot to the touch.

If you can give me some advice on how to check these things I will do it as soon as I get home tonight.

Thanks
jiml268
 
Hot Air Coal Stoker Stove: reading rsfd-10

Re: help with setting on coal-Trol

PostBy: WNYRob On: Wed Nov 19, 2014 2:18 pm

You need to get a manometer to check your draft. Do you have a barometric damper on the stove pipe that leads to the chimney (assuming you are connected to a chimney and not direct vent)? If you have a chimney, a glancing touch due to it being hot is probably a sign that the exhaust is too hot. From personal experience, my stack temps don't go much above 150, after the damper, and normally they are in the 120-130 range. I can usually leave my hand on the stove pipe for a few seconds, even with my skin's low heat tolerance.

You should try to get your hands on a manual or maybe a local dealer so you know what draft measurement your stove should be set at for efficient operation.
WNYRob
 
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