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Post by scalabro » Wed. Nov. 19, 2014 4:55 pm

JohnB wrote:I've got all sorts of temp monitoring equipment. Fluke 52-2 thermometer, calibrated Omega k type thermocouples, PID controlled temperature monitors, factory calibrated Thermapen, 2 Raytek IR guns & a few other gadgets. The vast majority of it is used to monitor my coffee roaster, coffee brewing devices & collection of vintage & modern espresso machines. The Hitzer gets by with 1 IR gun & a couple magnetic thermometers.
You must brew a great cup of joe!


 
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Post by JohnB » Wed. Nov. 19, 2014 5:11 pm

I do indeed. I have a small storage freezer filled with high quality green coffee beans from various African countries, Central & south America, Mexico & Asia. All vacuum bagged & ready to roast. Lots of different manual brewing devices as well as espresso machines dating from the 1950's to a couple years old.

 
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Post by scalabro » Wed. Nov. 19, 2014 5:22 pm

JohnB wrote:I do indeed. I have a small storage freezer filled with high quality green coffee beans from various African countries, Central & south America, Mexico & Asia. All vacuum bagged & ready to roast. Lots of different manual brewing devices as well as espresso machines dating from the 1950's to a couple years old.
It's drift, but what the heck.....100% Jamaican Blue Mountain and 100 % Estate Kona... Two beans without equal! Well, except for the 50 lb bag of Sumatran I grabbed right from the roaster in Jakarta a few years back :taz:

 
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Post by titleist1 » Wed. Nov. 19, 2014 5:25 pm

it's not drift if he roasts them in his coal stove and tells us how he monitors the temp! 8-)

 
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Post by scalabro » Wed. Nov. 19, 2014 6:03 pm

titleist1 wrote:it's not drift if he roasts them in his coal stove and tells us how he monitors the temp! 8-)
I meant my post, hahahahahaha!

 
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Post by ddahlgren » Wed. Nov. 19, 2014 6:05 pm

There were plenty of bonehead heating moves made in the 100 or so years and many brilliant ones too. They had a draft gauge it is called pipe or cigar smoke just pull in a cracked door 0.02 to 0.03 plus in briskly 0.5 or more. Temps spit on the stove top or stack pipe job done. Or the alternate very sad way, throw a cat on the stove top and see how high it jumps and if it limps or runs away :D just kidding on the cat but do have a bizarre sense of humor.

 
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Post by KingCoal » Wed. Nov. 19, 2014 6:07 pm

scalabro wrote:
JohnB wrote:I do indeed. I have a small storage freezer filled with high quality green coffee beans from various African countries, Central & south America, Mexico & Asia. All vacuum bagged & ready to roast. Lots of different manual brewing devices as well as espresso machines dating from the 1950's to a couple years old.
It's drift, but what the heck.....100% Jamaican Blue Mountain and 100 % Estate Kona... Two beans without equal! Well, except for the 50 lb bag of Sumatran I grabbed right from the roaster in Jakarta a few years back :taz:
3 FABULOUS coffee's probably without peer in my book.


 
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Post by JohnB » Wed. Nov. 19, 2014 6:17 pm

scalabro wrote: It's drift, but what the heck.....100% Jamaican Blue Mountain and 100 % Estate Kona... Two beans without equal! Well, except for the 50 lb bag of Sumatran I grabbed right from the roaster in Jakarta a few years back :taz:
I'm not a big Sumatra fan but I do have a few pounds of a unique Aged Sumatra in the freezer. Makes for a very interesting brew. My favorite coffees come from Ethiopia, Kenya, Yemen & Central America.

 
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Post by joeq » Wed. Nov. 19, 2014 7:13 pm

It's so easy to check temps with one of those IR guns, you can get a temp of "anything", anytime, anywhere. Has anyone checked the temp of your coffee? And then compare it to McDonald s "million dollar" temps?

 
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Post by Sunny Boy » Wed. Nov. 19, 2014 8:55 pm

joeq wrote:It's so easy to check temps with one of those IR guns, you can get a temp of "anything", anytime, anywhere. Has anyone checked the temp of your coffee? And then compare it to McDonald s "million dollar" temps?
I can tell you from trying to measure heat of silver painted metals, IR guns don't like silver paint, or other reflective surfaces such as polished stainless steel tea kettles.

And they won't read the surface temps of glass. To check how much the temps went up or down when installing the plastic window coverings, I had to put a piece of masking tape in the corner of the glass window so that the IR gun could get a surface reading of the glass before and after the plastic covering was installed. Without the tape, it was reading the temps of the bushes outside the window.

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Post by JohnB » Wed. Nov. 19, 2014 9:04 pm

joeq wrote: Has anyone checked the temp of your coffee? And then compare it to McDonald s "million dollar" temps?
I drink my brewed coffee cool or room temp so no chance of injury if I spill it in my lap. :lol:

 
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Post by Buck47 » Wed. Nov. 19, 2014 9:31 pm

joeq wrote:McDonald s "million dollar" temps?
One time I made so many changes to a McDonald's drive up order

... the window girl threw a cup of coffee in my face as I pulled up. :oops:

 
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Post by Davian » Wed. Nov. 19, 2014 10:06 pm

joeq wrote:It's so easy to check temps with one of those IR guns, you can get a temp of "anything", anytime, anywhere. Has anyone checked the temp of your coffee? And then compare it to McDonald s "million dollar" temps?
We did a study on that in college actually (years and years ago in a legal liability course). The case was far more complicated than the media made it sound at first. We all think "Wow, what an idiot to whine about something like coffee being hot". However, once you actually read a bit about it (and this is all from memory so bear with me and feel free to google it as it might be hazy at this point)...but here goes:

1. The coffee wasn't hot...it was scalding at something like 190 degrees. A temp they knew to be too hot and a risk to patrons as coffee is typically served at the 140-160 range (a difference of something like 5 sec for 2nd/3rd degree burns versus 20 sec which is huge when you are trying to avoid getting burned.

2. The woman in question wasn't driving or even in a moving vehicle. She was in a parked car and took the lid off to add cream/sugar. It spilled and burnt the *censored* out of her.

3. The woman originally only asked for medical costs to be paid for her surgeries (mainly skin grafts, etc) costing something like $20K total...fairly reasonable considering the extent of the burns. McDs countered with something like $800 total.

4. It wasn't the first issue or incident for them...they had had hundreds upon hundreds of similar burn incidents, knew the danger and simply didn't care to mitigate the risk. They actually admitted at the trial that they thought it was a hazard at that temp but didn't care...I mean, they were basically asking to lose at that point.

I mean, I expect coffee to be hot and I would expect to be burned a bit if I spilled it on me. I wouldn't expect to get 3rd degree burns that require major skin grafts...that's just crazy.

 
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Post by joeq » Wed. Nov. 19, 2014 10:43 pm

So 1 million dollars is Justified? I could see actually penalizing McDonalds, (1 mill is chicken feed to them). But look at the collateral damage, and what has happened to the country "legally" because of that verdict. People are suing for some of the most insane reasons. I'm sure the courts are loving it.

 
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Post by Sunny Boy » Thu. Nov. 20, 2014 7:13 am

Who knew a thread about thermometers could get so, . . . heated ? :D

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