Hitzer Hot Spot

 
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Post by JohnB » Fri. Dec. 05, 2014 9:01 am

The round hole around the shaker shaft has nothing to do with quality control, it's been there since the first one was made. Evidently they want air to come in there. The question is why? Stove works great with it blocked off so you have to wonder what they were thinking. Anybody ever ask Dean about the intentional air leak?
fastcat wrote:
JohnB wrote:The handle mount does fit up close to the body on the newer stoves but the clamping method is unfortunately still the same. I added a second bolt on the other side but it still requires occasional retightening.
On our older ones there was no clamping method, the handle just slid on and off.


Taking it on & off might actually be less irritating then the single bolt set up that constantly comes loose. If I ever have a reason to pull the grate assy. I'll drill & tap a hole in the shaft so I can run a bolt clear through.

 
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Post by fastcat » Fri. Dec. 05, 2014 10:42 am

davidmcbeth3 wrote:What is happening with Hitzer? What, the Amish never heard of quality control?
This has nothing to do with quality control it has been this way forever. It is not that they want this air leak it is something they figure is not important to correct, there is no harm being done to the stove having it this way. Anytime the draft goes up like on windy days that corner of the stove glows. A tight stove only gives you 100% control of how much coal will be burnt in a day, with an air leak that goes up and down with the wind you have no control of how much coal will be burnt in that area of the stove. I started this thread just to give info on how you can control your stove better not to bash Hitzer, anything you buy can be made better with a little thought. I love my stove.

 
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Post by Scottaw » Fri. Dec. 05, 2014 3:02 pm

Want to fix the handle that comes on and off? Jam a penny or dime in the handle and hammer it on, worked for me and only cost eleven cents.

 
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Post by tommyboy56 » Fri. Dec. 05, 2014 10:57 pm

davidmcbeth3 wrote:What is happening with Hitzer? What, the Amish never heard of quality control?
I don't know about quality control, but their customer support has sucked so far as a question I've sent them has thus far been unanswered.

 
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Post by fastcat » Fri. Dec. 05, 2014 11:35 pm

tommyboy56 wrote:
davidmcbeth3 wrote:What is happening with Hitzer? What, the Amish never heard of quality control?
I don't know about quality control, but their customer support has sucked so far as a question I've sent them has thus far been unanswered.
Your best bet is to call them the number is on their site. I don't think the Amish use computers do they?


 
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Post by JohnB » Sat. Dec. 06, 2014 8:54 am

Never tried email with them but I have called twice. First time with a few questions when I first got the stove set up last year. I was immediately put through to Dean who was very helpful. Second time was just for a gasket set & again no issues.

 
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Post by tommyboy56 » Sat. Dec. 06, 2014 4:56 pm

Your best bet is to call them the number is on their site. I don't think the Amish use computers do they?
Well they supposedly don't have electricity either, but they somehow figured out a way to weld the stoves together,

 
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Post by windyhill4.2 » Sat. Dec. 06, 2014 5:08 pm

TB56, the Amish make their own electric for business,that way they are not tied into the WORLD system,its still rare for them to have computers.

 
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Post by Stoker6268 » Sat. Dec. 06, 2014 5:41 pm

Of course Hitzer has a computer. They list their email contact on their "website". Ive emailed them and gotten follow up emails back.

 
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Post by Old-Duckman » Fri. Dec. 12, 2014 3:06 pm

I read this thread with interest. I hadn't noticed, or given it any thought, that the hole in the side of the stove caused a hot spot. I did notice that the left side of the stove seemed to ash up more vs. the right side but never put 2 & 2 together.

So after reading the thread and thinking about it some I came up with this solution for my stove.
I had a roll of cork gasket material and I have plenty of pewter sheet. I measured the shaker stub and it was roughly 3/4" square. Laid out a circle on both gasket material and pewter sheet with the 3/4" square hole in the center of each. Cut out both shapes, stuffed some insulation around the sub, put the cork gasket on and then the pewter circle. I used blue Locktite on the bolt and snugged everything down.

I did look up the properties of cork, it can withstand pretty high temps and does not support fire. It will char but not really burn. But even the temps for that are higher than the stove should safely reach.

I don't know if the blue Locktite will work since heat is what you use if you want to removed a fastener that was put on using Locktite but I figured it was worth a shot.

I did not, nor would I recommend, drilling a hole all the way through the shaker stub. The way I see it is that you would be removing about 1/3 of the thickness of the metal at that cross section and being that the part appears to be cast iron, I would think that would significantly weaken the stub. The most I would do would be to dish out a spot on the stub for the bolt to nest in. Probably using a carbide ball burr or a suitable sized drill bit...but would not drill the hole too deep.

I used pewter 'cause I have it but any metal would work well...pewter is easy to work if you have access to some. I cut the square hole by first drilling one hole and then using a jewelers saw to cut the square out.

Just my solution...FYI.
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Post by davidmcbeth3 » Fri. Dec. 12, 2014 3:29 pm

Nice post duckman ! Although I would have used duck tape lol

 
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Post by Old-Duckman » Fri. Dec. 12, 2014 3:50 pm

davidmcbeth3 wrote:Nice post duckman ! Although I would have used duck tape lol
LOL...literally !

 
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Post by Stoker6268 » Fri. Dec. 12, 2014 4:46 pm

Nice job! Bet you will save a few pounds of coal over the season!

 
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Post by Old-Duckman » Fri. Dec. 12, 2014 5:28 pm

Stoker6268 wrote:Nice job! Bet you will save a few pounds of coal over the season!
Hopefully but even if I don't, it just drove me crazy when I would look in the stove and realize I might be able to do something about the "hot spot" but hadn't done it yet. I went a few days with just insulation stuck around the stub but the "Mickey Mouse"-ness of that drove me crazy too.

Sometimes ignorance IS bliss.....

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