Building a New Era Base Burner

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Post by Buck47 » Sun. Apr. 05, 2015 9:12 am

KingCoal wrote:which, by my recon makes it in or very near the area encompassed by New Albin, Dorchester, Church and Lansing.

i have some flow path and fire view details to work out before I can send drawings for a barrel and base chamber bottom.
it's probably going to be a travel day on either or both sides of a week end so I can optimize vacation time.
You are correct about the location, area is all limestone outcroppings and deep valleys, called coulée (The word coulee comes from the Canadian French coulée, from French word couler meaning "to flow)
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The boys here in the machine shop are good at working from drawings. And they have already made four barrels for me. One was for a Locke120 without the heat shield, they shipped to Watertown, South Dakota - cost of shipping was around $30.00.

If you don't find a stove local, the barrel could be made to your specs before you make the drive here - so it would be completed and ready for you when you arrive. And I could have the molds for fire bricks ready for you to take back.

Regards: john


 
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Post by KingCoal » Sun. Apr. 05, 2015 3:27 pm

we have 2 specific areas here in IN. similar to your location. 1 is mid state and known as Brown county the other is Clifty Falls down along the Ohio river in the south / south east.

 
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Post by dlj » Sun. Apr. 05, 2015 3:35 pm

Gorgeous country! Beautiful photos!

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Post by windyhill4.2 » Sun. Apr. 05, 2015 10:41 pm

That porch looks very inviting,i think I could easily feel at home sitting there enjoying that view.

 
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Post by KingCoal » Mon. Apr. 06, 2015 5:42 am

first round of pics have come in on a stove in Ohio. very good.

i'm waiting for additional pics of the cast in place refractory liner that was put in after the factory "chimney" bricks eroded.

i'll probably have to take the compressor and air chisel along to get enough o fit out of there to load it. no biggy.

more later.
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Post by KingCoal » Mon. Apr. 06, 2015 8:19 am

it seems the replacement liner is 11 ga. steel and just stands inside the outer barrel. lifts right out. :)

there is a lip of refractory along the outer edge of the side grate plates to make a transition.

no problem to get out. even if not with the steel liner out and no other bricks it'll be lift / movable.

looks like Wed. presently.

 
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Post by Buck47 » Mon. Apr. 06, 2015 8:33 am

KingCoal wrote:it seems the replacement liner is 11 ga. steel and just stands inside the outer barrel. lifts right out. :)

there is a lip of refractory along the outer edge of the side grate plates to make a transition.

no problem to get out. even if not with the steel liner out and no other bricks it'll be lift / movable.

looks like Wed. presently.
Will you be posting photos? Wonder what fuel was burned in that stove having a steel liner? and how it affected the performance.


 
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Post by KingCoal » Mon. Apr. 06, 2015 11:29 am

i'm going over Wed. afternoon. i'll have the camera and will get pics in place before I break it down to come back.

i think it was in use to get rid of house hold paper trash and scraps of stuff from the garage for the last portion of it's life.

Buck47 send me an email url by PM and i'll forward you the pics I have.

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Post by KingCoal » Wed. Apr. 08, 2015 10:41 pm

just getting back with the stove, went in my saturn sc1 just fine.

of course I forgot the camera and am not unloading tonight.

have to be up at 0500 so will try to put up info tomorrow.

 
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Post by KingCoal » Thu. Apr. 09, 2015 7:21 pm

OK, I have some pics, i'm just going to load them and ad a little note with each one for simplicity.

might have to use 2 posts.

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all the parts

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nice tight fitting doors

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grate support ring

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round grate and center draw, 2 cracks

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excellent top and load lid fitment

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steel liner

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inside outer barrel and grate ring locators

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Post by KingCoal » Thu. Apr. 09, 2015 7:30 pm

more pics

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inside barrel seam

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outside barrel seam

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loading lid locator rings and Locke Stove ID

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Post by Buck47 » Thu. Apr. 09, 2015 7:40 pm

Very nice, this one will work.

Those cracks in the round shaker grate are common. In fact every stove I have has those same cracks. I stated the winter with cracks in the exact same places on my stove, in a few weeks when I shut him/her down for the season I will pull that grate and look to see if they have expanded or become worse. The dump grate looks to be in good usable condition. And lucky you the ash pan came with the stove, as did all the handles and secondary air adjustments parts.

The spring and part of the tension assembly is gone from the air intake (primary air) on the ash door. That will need to be fixed.

I'm surprised the barrel is riveted. That is different from any I have seen, as far as I know original barrels where thin steel with a crimped seam.

Congratulations, you have a lot to work with here.

 
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Post by KingCoal » Thu. Apr. 09, 2015 7:54 pm

the Locke ID says either 1943 or 1948 it's kind of tough to be sure even after wiping it down. maybe later units had the riveted
barrel ? I haven't check yet but the barrel seems to be at least 20 ga.

will be calling the owners of the first stove I saw to see if I can snag it for the bricks. if possible i'll try to do that this Sat. while the wife is still on her way back from Cali.

the guy I bought this stove from said he had it lit on ALITTLE wood in his garage ONCE and it drove him out. that inner liner is 17" ID and 20" deep. would hold about 135 #'s of nut but, I seriously doubt it would burn it very well with all the room for air to bypass the grates in between the liner and barrel.

thanks,
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Post by KingCoal » Thu. Apr. 09, 2015 8:04 pm

forgot to mention, $120.00 buy in. :)

and yes, I noted the absence of the pressure spring on the air intake. i'll get that fixed up in a hurry, I don't think my house would survive even one instance of it falling full open :shock:

thanks,
steve

 
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Post by Buck47 » Thu. Apr. 09, 2015 8:09 pm

KingCoal wrote:
the Locke ID says either 1943 or 1948 it's kind of tough to be sure even after wiping it down. maybe later units had the riveted
barrel ?

will be calling the owners of the first stove I saw to see if I can snag it for the bricks. if possible i'll try to do that this Sat.
thanks,
steve
I didn't know there was a manufacture date on these stoves, where is it located?

Good idea if you can get the stove with good fire bricks, also the two metal plates that go behind the large fire brick and the missing parts for the ash door would be nice to have.

If you get both stoves you will still be under $200.00 with extra parts. :P

That's a lot of stove for $120.00 - well done. going to give ya some good heat. As I type this mine is cruzing at idle, sipping on coal.

Regards: john


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