Sounds like you made a real heat monsterKingCoal wrote:yes. stove hot spot is 579 and the stack at thimble is 117. sides of base chamber 186. FRANKS base was 3/16" steel and was never that hot at the outer surface.SWPaDon wrote:Are you in baseheater mode?
Building a New Era Base Burner
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It needs a name
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"Cole"Canaan coal man wrote:It needs a name
Or how about "King Coal"
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well, as I learn this stove i'm finding it quite diff. with a full and mature fire bed in it.ddahlgren wrote:Does it look possible to cut it to -0.02 and keep more in the stove this is sounding like working really well! Same amount of air as primary has to open but lingers 33% longer.
3 specific things are at play.
1st, the grates need a bit of slicing to fully clear. this is very easy and can be done right thru the primary air / shaker door. no need to open the ash chamber. also nice that it's up off the floor.
2nd, a 16" dia. 16" deep fire pot takes alot of nut and that creates some air path resistance.
3rd, it seems that in order to deal with the first 2 i'm needing to run higher than normal "stack" draft
to achieve the same kind of "in stove" draft results i'm used to. currently running very modest primary but seeing -.07 on the Mano. in the stack out side the stove.
i believe my next move will be a Mano. tap in the barrel above the fire bed to see what the fire is actually seeing. after that perhaps some stove size coal is in order to experiment with.
just begining to feel like i'm catching up with what this stove requires, as things go another few days some of this may resolve on it's own.
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i think my good friend William has dealt with this issue.Canaan coal man wrote:It needs a name
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I find it comforting that such an experienced coal burner has training wheels on with a new setup. I am finally learning where my little Crane hides all the ashes that make clinkers.
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my first pick is "The Sherrick of Coalingham"KingCoal wrote:i think my good friend William has dealt with this issue.Canaan coal man wrote:It needs a name
second choice, "Trioculus Maximus"
i'm serious.
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Each stove and chimney system is a thing unto it's own. Get a different stove and the learning curve can go right back to a hair-pulling perfect circle.ddahlgren wrote:I find it comforting that such an experienced coal burner has training wheels on with a new setup. I am finally learning where my little Crane hides all the ashes that make clinkers.
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What a great ratio, Hows the house IAT doing at those temps? 100lbs to fill holy cow, should get 24hrs on that no prob.KingCoal wrote:it's taken forever it seems to layer nearly 100#'s of nut into the stove and of course the closer to full it gets the more the operational strategy changes.
finally running at -.03, steady blues and great heat on very little primary.
579 / 117
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That was just to fill it, He'll add ounces per day from here...ddahlgren wrote:Yikes figuring a 100 day coal burning season that is 5 tons. 120 days may be closer and even more.
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i'll be getting to that soon.Lightning wrote:Any pics of the blues thru the windows?
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right, if you take a VERY doable 1 # per hr. you're talking 4 days.Lightning wrote:That was just to fill it, He'll add ounces per day from here...ddahlgren wrote:Yikes figuring a 100 day coal burning season that is 5 tons. 120 days may be closer and even more.
of course the most common practice is regular tending and just refilling the top.