Building a New Era Base Burner

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KingCoal
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Post by KingCoal » Sat. Mar. 21, 2015 4:02 pm

nothing from the guy in Ohio, oh well no loss.

i'm going with the Locke 120 from John ( Buck47 ) as the foundation for my new project.

i have worked out the primary mods required to convert it and attain more radiant surface at the top of the stove and a 5" deep base chamber below.

this will create a stove that is 53" tall at the top of the bonnet and will be 45" tall at the loading threshold. that's the same height as the top hopper door on my present stove.

this new stove is going to incorporate a mix of features from what I consider the very best of the original period stoves.

in fact, John has been using the standard Locke 120 in an installation that's as near a dead ringer for my house, installation and conditions as could be had and is on tract to burn at least 1200 #'s LESS coal than I expect to for this heat season.

AND his area has had 6297 HDD's while I have seen 5630 HDD's in the same period from Oct. 8 to present.

steve


 
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Post by KingCoal » Thu. Mar. 26, 2015 5:01 pm

very grateful for the interest and viewing of my latest trading post ad concerning trying to attain a direct / indirect damper of the type used between stove cylinders and back pipe installations.

not getting any comments is understandable. i'll likely need to enlist the help of some local area member to go hunting for me in the established restoration opperation bone yards of disjointed parts this spring or summer depending on the continued snow pack. :o

thanks,
steve

 
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Post by Sunny Boy » Thu. Mar. 26, 2015 5:21 pm

KingCoal wrote:very grateful for the interest and viewing of my latest trading post ad concerning trying to attain a direct / indirect damper of the type used between stove cylinders and back pipe installations.

not getting any comments is understandable. i'll likely need to enlist the help of some local area member to go hunting for me in the established restoration opperation bone yards of disjointed parts this spring or summer depending on the continued snow pack. :o

thanks,
steve
Maybe barrow one to have it recast ?

Paul

 
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Post by Photog200 » Thu. Mar. 26, 2015 5:47 pm

Is this the part you are looking for? It looks to be for an oval pipe direct / indirect selector. If it is, I would be happy to pick it up for you.

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Post by KingCoal » Thu. Mar. 26, 2015 6:22 pm

Sunny Boy wrote:
KingCoal wrote:very grateful for the interest and viewing of my latest trading post ad concerning trying to attain a direct / indirect damper of the type used between stove cylinders and back pipe installations.

not getting any comments is understandable. i'll likely need to enlist the help of some local area member to go hunting for me in the established restoration opperation bone yards of disjointed parts this spring or summer depending on the continued snow pack. :o

thanks,
steve
Maybe barrow one to have it recast ?

Paul
i can make one myself quicker than the recast route, but it's a good idea to have in mind

thanks,
steve

 
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Post by KingCoal » Thu. Mar. 26, 2015 6:23 pm

Photog200 wrote:Is this the part you are looking for? It looks to be for an oval pipe direct / indirect selector. If it is, I would be happy to pick it up for you.

**Broken Link(S) Removed**

Randy
not quite, but that IS the operating part from an oval pipe damper.

i'm hoping to find the complete unit, both flanges, damper valve, etc.

thanks,
steve
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Post by KingCoal » Thu. Mar. 26, 2015 6:26 pm

i'll throw this in here because it's the kind of thing that helps keep my mind perking. I really respect this.

http://www.wired.com/2013/12/put-away-the-axe-thi ... tire-tree/


 
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Post by scalabro » Thu. Mar. 26, 2015 7:33 pm

Why are the fins running left to right?

I would think vertically would be better.

You need one heck of a large room too!

 
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Post by KingCoal » Thu. Mar. 26, 2015 7:38 pm

i bet forming concave circular fins isn't too simple.

my appreciation runs mainly toward the door. 8-)

 
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Post by scalabro » Thu. Mar. 26, 2015 7:40 pm

KingCoal wrote:i bet forming concave circular fins isn't too simple.

my appreciation runs mainly toward the door. 8-)
The door IS way cool!

 
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Post by Sunny Boy » Thu. Mar. 26, 2015 7:58 pm

Wonder if the builder of that "tree stove" is Norwegian ?

Friend of my Father's thought it was crazy to go to all the trouble of cutting/splitting firewood. He'd just feed several wood poles into the fireplace as they burned. Said that's the way they did it in Norway when he was a kid. :shock:

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Post by KingCoal » Sun. Mar. 29, 2015 4:06 pm

have spent much of the week end playing phone tag with a retired couple near Grand Rapids, MI. to establish a conversation and appointment to buy a 1942 Locke #120.

i sent the original sale listing photo to John ( Buck47 ) and he said it was one of the best he had seen go to sale.

i'm going up on Thrusday evening to bring it back. i'll have lots of pics.

this is going to be the foundation of this new project.

thanks,
steve

 
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Post by Buck47 » Sun. Mar. 29, 2015 4:38 pm

Steve:

Congratulations on the Locke 120, She is going to be a fine stove.

It's going to be a long wait until you return on Thursday with the stove & dozens of photos.

Regards: john

 
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Post by SWPaDon » Sun. Mar. 29, 2015 6:43 pm

KingCoal wrote:have spent much of the week end playing phone tag with a retired couple near Grand Rapids, MI. to establish a conversation and appointment to buy a 1942 Locke #120.

i sent the original sale listing photo to John ( Buck47 ) and he said it was one of the best he had seen go to sale.

i'm going up on Thrusday evening to bring it back. i'll have lots of pics.

this is going to be the foundation of this new project.

thanks,
steve
Hey, that's great that you found a stove. Can't wait to see your project.

EDIT: Oh God............I'm at the top of the page............Must be the Joey curse :rofl: toothy

 
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Post by KingCoal » Mon. Mar. 30, 2015 6:19 pm

been looking and thinking about Mica. never had a stove with it.

i've seen all the big Mica radiant and double heaters, the GW and Herald BB doors and the many other examples. what seems to stick out to me is that the Mica has been kept a decent distance from direct flame and esp. possible contact with burning coal.

is there a norm as to how close is too close ? has anyone ever experimented with a piece in contact with live coal or sustained flame ?

i've seen pics of it burned thru and wondered what it took to have that happen. I've been considering using some in this project but i'd hate to have to "undo" it if I failed to make the correct assumptions.

thanks,
steve


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