Building a New Era Base Burner
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- Coal Size/Type: Nut Anth.
- Other Heating: none
nothing from the guy in Ohio, oh well no loss.
i'm going with the Locke 120 from John ( Buck47 ) as the foundation for my new project.
i have worked out the primary mods required to convert it and attain more radiant surface at the top of the stove and a 5" deep base chamber below.
this will create a stove that is 53" tall at the top of the bonnet and will be 45" tall at the loading threshold. that's the same height as the top hopper door on my present stove.
this new stove is going to incorporate a mix of features from what I consider the very best of the original period stoves.
in fact, John has been using the standard Locke 120 in an installation that's as near a dead ringer for my house, installation and conditions as could be had and is on tract to burn at least 1200 #'s LESS coal than I expect to for this heat season.
AND his area has had 6297 HDD's while I have seen 5630 HDD's in the same period from Oct. 8 to present.
steve
i'm going with the Locke 120 from John ( Buck47 ) as the foundation for my new project.
i have worked out the primary mods required to convert it and attain more radiant surface at the top of the stove and a 5" deep base chamber below.
this will create a stove that is 53" tall at the top of the bonnet and will be 45" tall at the loading threshold. that's the same height as the top hopper door on my present stove.
this new stove is going to incorporate a mix of features from what I consider the very best of the original period stoves.
in fact, John has been using the standard Locke 120 in an installation that's as near a dead ringer for my house, installation and conditions as could be had and is on tract to burn at least 1200 #'s LESS coal than I expect to for this heat season.
AND his area has had 6297 HDD's while I have seen 5630 HDD's in the same period from Oct. 8 to present.
steve
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- Hand Fed Coal Stove: 1 comforter stove works all iron coal box stove, seventies.
- Baseburners & Antiques: 2014 DTS C17 Base Burner, GW #6, GW 113 formerly Sir Williams, maybe others at Pauliewog’s I’ve forgotten about
- Coal Size/Type: Nut Anth.
- Other Heating: none
very grateful for the interest and viewing of my latest trading post ad concerning trying to attain a direct / indirect damper of the type used between stove cylinders and back pipe installations.
not getting any comments is understandable. i'll likely need to enlist the help of some local area member to go hunting for me in the established restoration opperation bone yards of disjointed parts this spring or summer depending on the continued snow pack.
thanks,
steve
not getting any comments is understandable. i'll likely need to enlist the help of some local area member to go hunting for me in the established restoration opperation bone yards of disjointed parts this spring or summer depending on the continued snow pack.
thanks,
steve
- Sunny Boy
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- Baseburners & Antiques: Glenwood range 208, # 6 base heater, 2 Modern Oak 118.
- Coal Size/Type: Nuts !
- Other Heating: Oil &electric plenum furnace
Maybe barrow one to have it recast ?KingCoal wrote:very grateful for the interest and viewing of my latest trading post ad concerning trying to attain a direct / indirect damper of the type used between stove cylinders and back pipe installations.
not getting any comments is understandable. i'll likely need to enlist the help of some local area member to go hunting for me in the established restoration opperation bone yards of disjointed parts this spring or summer depending on the continued snow pack.
thanks,
steve
Paul
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Is this the part you are looking for? It looks to be for an oval pipe direct / indirect selector. If it is, I would be happy to pick it up for you.
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Randy
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Randy
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- Coal Size/Type: Nut Anth.
- Other Heating: none
i can make one myself quicker than the recast route, but it's a good idea to have in mindSunny Boy wrote:Maybe barrow one to have it recast ?KingCoal wrote:very grateful for the interest and viewing of my latest trading post ad concerning trying to attain a direct / indirect damper of the type used between stove cylinders and back pipe installations.
not getting any comments is understandable. i'll likely need to enlist the help of some local area member to go hunting for me in the established restoration opperation bone yards of disjointed parts this spring or summer depending on the continued snow pack.
thanks,
steve
Paul
thanks,
steve
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- Coal Size/Type: Nut Anth.
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not quite, but that IS the operating part from an oval pipe damper.Photog200 wrote:Is this the part you are looking for? It looks to be for an oval pipe direct / indirect selector. If it is, I would be happy to pick it up for you.
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Randy
i'm hoping to find the complete unit, both flanges, damper valve, etc.
thanks,
steve
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- Coal Size/Type: Nut Anth.
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i'll throw this in here because it's the kind of thing that helps keep my mind perking. I really respect this.
http://www.wired.com/2013/12/put-away-the-axe-thi ... tire-tree/
http://www.wired.com/2013/12/put-away-the-axe-thi ... tire-tree/
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- Other Heating: Oil fired, forced hot air.
Why are the fins running left to right?
I would think vertically would be better.
You need one heck of a large room too!
I would think vertically would be better.
You need one heck of a large room too!
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- Coal Size/Type: Nut Anth.
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i bet forming concave circular fins isn't too simple.
my appreciation runs mainly toward the door.
my appreciation runs mainly toward the door.
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The door IS way cool!KingCoal wrote:i bet forming concave circular fins isn't too simple.
my appreciation runs mainly toward the door.
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- Coal Size/Type: Nuts !
- Other Heating: Oil &electric plenum furnace
Wonder if the builder of that "tree stove" is Norwegian ?
Friend of my Father's thought it was crazy to go to all the trouble of cutting/splitting firewood. He'd just feed several wood poles into the fireplace as they burned. Said that's the way they did it in Norway when he was a kid.
Paul
Friend of my Father's thought it was crazy to go to all the trouble of cutting/splitting firewood. He'd just feed several wood poles into the fireplace as they burned. Said that's the way they did it in Norway when he was a kid.
Paul
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- Baseburners & Antiques: 2014 DTS C17 Base Burner, GW #6, GW 113 formerly Sir Williams, maybe others at Pauliewog’s I’ve forgotten about
- Coal Size/Type: Nut Anth.
- Other Heating: none
have spent much of the week end playing phone tag with a retired couple near Grand Rapids, MI. to establish a conversation and appointment to buy a 1942 Locke #120.
i sent the original sale listing photo to John ( Buck47 ) and he said it was one of the best he had seen go to sale.
i'm going up on Thrusday evening to bring it back. i'll have lots of pics.
this is going to be the foundation of this new project.
thanks,
steve
i sent the original sale listing photo to John ( Buck47 ) and he said it was one of the best he had seen go to sale.
i'm going up on Thrusday evening to bring it back. i'll have lots of pics.
this is going to be the foundation of this new project.
thanks,
steve
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Steve:
Congratulations on the Locke 120, She is going to be a fine stove.
It's going to be a long wait until you return on Thursday with the stove & dozens of photos.
Regards: john
Congratulations on the Locke 120, She is going to be a fine stove.
It's going to be a long wait until you return on Thursday with the stove & dozens of photos.
Regards: john
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Hey, that's great that you found a stove. Can't wait to see your project.KingCoal wrote:have spent much of the week end playing phone tag with a retired couple near Grand Rapids, MI. to establish a conversation and appointment to buy a 1942 Locke #120.
i sent the original sale listing photo to John ( Buck47 ) and he said it was one of the best he had seen go to sale.
i'm going up on Thrusday evening to bring it back. i'll have lots of pics.
this is going to be the foundation of this new project.
thanks,
steve
EDIT: Oh God............I'm at the top of the page............Must be the Joey curse
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- Coal Size/Type: Nut Anth.
- Other Heating: none
been looking and thinking about Mica. never had a stove with it.
i've seen all the big Mica radiant and double heaters, the GW and Herald BB doors and the many other examples. what seems to stick out to me is that the Mica has been kept a decent distance from direct flame and esp. possible contact with burning coal.
is there a norm as to how close is too close ? has anyone ever experimented with a piece in contact with live coal or sustained flame ?
i've seen pics of it burned thru and wondered what it took to have that happen. I've been considering using some in this project but i'd hate to have to "undo" it if I failed to make the correct assumptions.
thanks,
steve
i've seen all the big Mica radiant and double heaters, the GW and Herald BB doors and the many other examples. what seems to stick out to me is that the Mica has been kept a decent distance from direct flame and esp. possible contact with burning coal.
is there a norm as to how close is too close ? has anyone ever experimented with a piece in contact with live coal or sustained flame ?
i've seen pics of it burned thru and wondered what it took to have that happen. I've been considering using some in this project but i'd hate to have to "undo" it if I failed to make the correct assumptions.
thanks,
steve