Leisure Line Ak 220 Coal Furnace

 
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Post by coalnewbie » Tue. Dec. 09, 2014 10:34 am

OK, as the stove operator you have set the timers so that for day and night operation the temperature is set to 72*. Let's now assume you want to house a little warmer. You push the up arrow and the temp set comes up, if you push it again the temperature goes up one degree but a letter O comes besides it. This means you are on temporary override until the start of the next cycle. Now here comes the coal trick. Any coal stove will not change quickly it just takes time. We will not talk about hydronics for now. Let's use a hypothetical example.

You have the house temp set at 70* but mom is coming over and she really likes things hot. It 9AM and she is coming for lunch. About 10AM override it to 75*, slowly the stove will respond. After lunch you have 2 options turn it back down and that might take a couple of hours or more or just leave it and when the night time temperature rolls around the stove will reset at night and for the following day. That is the difference with coal you need a anticipate what you want. So today it is 35* that is warm for this part of the world and as I was lazy (yesterday was 18 and windy) I had set the temp at 75* but today I will reset it to 70*. You have full thermostatic control but a little anticipation helps. Once the house is heat soaked it all becomes easier but that may take up to a week.So excess twiddling right now is not encouraged. Generally 72* is about right for most people so let's leave it there for a few days and then we can play some more.
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Post by Flyer5 » Tue. Dec. 09, 2014 7:12 pm

lilbitfarm wrote:Ok so I adjusted the min from 6 to 8 and below is a picture of the coals now. the Temperature went up to 74 still set for 69. the blower has turned off but every few seconds pops on but only for seconds at a time?
Hope I did not break it!!

and absolutely not bored, actually very grateful. I have forward your replies to my husband and he is finding them very helpful. so again Thank you and keep the lessons coming. We want to make sure we get this right .
Please read how the coal trol works under the tips and tricks link that was on earlier post. The Min has no effect on the fire above a FR of about 10-15. Min and max are not used to adjust temperature. Most people try to over complicate the thermostat so you are not alone.

P.S. What happened to the Z bracket that was on the coal trol module box.?

 
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Post by coalnewbie » Tue. Dec. 09, 2014 7:23 pm

So that we do not confuse a newbie Dave this discussion needs to proceed off line. My advice stands. :D

 
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Post by lilbitfarm » Mon. Jan. 19, 2015 8:28 pm

So the stove was running great for a while until today when it went out and we can not get it started for anything. The stove is not feeding the coal down. not sure what happened, our settings are set at
min 8
max32
fr1
fsa
fr99
cft 8

any suggestions are greatly appreciated
it is starting to get mighty cold in here


 
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Post by WNY » Mon. Jan. 19, 2015 8:46 pm

The min is just for IDLE or Pilot Mode when the thermostat is not calling for heat, the thermostat is satisfied and the FR=0.

What is your thermostat set at and the room temp? if it is the same, the stokers will not move very much, except for the idle time, so many seconds per 60 seconds.

 
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Post by Flyer5 » Mon. Jan. 19, 2015 9:00 pm

You have 2 different numbers for FR? FR of 99 the furnace is running at max setpoint. There is no ign mode on the furnace software so that should not be an issue. It is a 220 so is 1 feeder running and not the other? In the setup menu the FDR should be 2 if you want both feeders on.

 
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Post by lilbitfarm » Mon. Jan. 19, 2015 9:17 pm

we have the 220 we have been running fdr 2 however we were trying to get it going and thought fdr1 would be easier as it has been very hot in our house, so we thought maybe running both burners was too much. how ever right up until this afternoon when it went out it was set at fdr2. when we scroll through the set up menu we have min max fdr fr cft and fsa and exit no ING. We ran teh test sequence and the blowers would shut no and off however the stove would not feed any coal. the thermostat is set for 70 and is reading 63 and that is only that warm because we are running an electric heater in the room because it was down to 54 in here.

I thank you for any help

 
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Post by Flyer5 » Tue. Jan. 20, 2015 6:32 am

Do you have a powervent? Or chimney? The feeders move very slow how are you checking them? The Min being at 8 may have been why you were too hot. It may also cause the fan limit switch to shut off the feeders if the plenum gets too hot. Looking back at your pictures the Fan limit is mounted in the wrong placement. In the manual it states it should be near the top of the plenum or at least 28" above furnace.


 
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Post by lilbitfarm » Tue. Jan. 20, 2015 7:02 am

Thank you we were able to get the stove lit last night. we are only running fdr1, we found out that we had a bad cable out of the thermostat, after replacing the cord the feeders are working. However the furnace is blowing out very cool air not remotely warm. We went from reading 63 at 10:30 pm and now is reading 67 at 7 am, but is set for 70. my husband turned the cft from 8 to 15 thinking it would increased the heat but that has not worked. I will have my husband check the placement of the fan limit this evening.

 
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Post by Flyer5 » Tue. Jan. 20, 2015 8:36 am

Have him read the link for the tips and tricks that I posted earlier to understand how the coal trol works. Setting cft to 15 will most likely cause the switch to shut the furnace down again. cft is when the fan will start to run when the fr is a higher # than the cft #. Also the fan limit switch is what prevents the furnace from blowing when its cold.

 
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Post by lilbitfarm » Tue. Jan. 20, 2015 8:47 am

Thank you so much I read the tips and tricks last night and will have him do so tonight Thank you for all your help

 
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Post by coalnewbie » Tue. Jan. 20, 2015 8:48 am

Sorry I did not participate last night but I had a BAD toothache. Glad to see the customer service is up to the usual standard. My AK180 is still running like a champ so LF be patient your stove will settle down. LOL.

 
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