Yep... Heating #2 Oil on Long Island... $2.48/Gallon

blrman07 · Post by **blrman07** » Sat. Dec. 20, 2014 1:18 pm

Coal drops by $40 a ton it will still be cheaper than oil. No brainer.

tmbrddl · Post by **tmbrddl** » Sat. Dec. 20, 2014 1:35 pm

windyhill4.2 wrote:I will continue to heat with coal no matter how low oil goes. First , I have no choice as coal burners are the only heat we have. Second, we made a choice in 1999 to not burn oil or propain ever again for heating.Third, I am constantly reminded of how politics sets the price of oil,propain & natural gas.I am constantly reminded of this factor every time I see gasoline prices.When I get ripped of by something like oil prices,i do not forget.When a momentary drop in prices come along I will not fall for the bait & switch tactics that is so common with oil.Some will switch to oil if it drops to $1.50 but will not switch back to coal if oil goes to $1.60. Oil had its chance,we have been gouged for long enough by politics & big oil.If oil went to $.50 I still would be loyal to coal.

I worked for a regional oil company for a time both as a driver and as a heating technician. Seeing the writing on the oil industry wall, they started shifting their focus toward becoming a distributor/broker for electricity.

I'm trying to think back to see if my conscience should be seared for suggesting people update their antiquated boilers with newer, more efficient models. I should have counseled them to drop oil altogether but I wasn't yet a coal burner myself. I lived in ignorance.

I remember when oil would typically hover around fifty to seventy cents a gallon in the summer and move up to a dollar or so come winter. Then came the winter when it shot up to $1.80 a gallon and things haven't been the same since. I have an oil fired boiler that I use for domestic hot water and this one so efficient, I don't think an electric tank could compete with it but it's nothing I would ever try to use to keep my house warm.

It's coal for me.

vulcan · Post by **vulcan** » Sun. Dec. 21, 2014 5:46 pm

In today's Scranton paper Lokuta's fuel service in Pittston PA is advertising heating oil for $2.23 per gallon. I converted to coal and am not looking back. My oil burner is still in place but most likely needs replacement to be functional again. I am glad to see it for my rental property and others that rely on oil for the primary heat.

Regular gasoline has now dropped to the $2.49 mark in the Dallas PA area. I am glad to see this as well. So here's my question when oil prices were skyrocketing the coal companies used that excuse to raise the price to the ballpark of $180 - $200 per ton. I realize that diesel fuel prices have not dropped as much as gasoline but with a drop like this has our coal price dropped or anything else for that matter that is hauled, trucked, shipped, or uses fuel in some way to produce?

It seems to me that somebody is making serious money here.

michaelanthony · Post by **michaelanthony** » Sun. Dec. 21, 2014 5:52 pm

Ask any food distributor if the fuel charge that started showing up on bills of lading a few years ago, will be removed....ha ha ha I crack me up!

Post by **Lightning** » Sun. Dec. 21, 2014 5:55 pm

Wow.. Propain would have to be 89 cents per gallon to beat coal at $235 per ton..
DON'T SEE IT HAPPININ..

DePippo79 · Post by **DePippo79** » Sun. Dec. 21, 2014 6:08 pm

Guess no one told Blaschak. My dealer says their still going up come spring. I keep saying, "but oil is in a downward spiral". Response, "processing costs keep going up".
Yeah plan B for next year. As I said before I'm all for supporting local business, but I'm not going to get taken advantage of either. Called a mine the other day. Bulk coal delivered to New Hampshire $218.00/ton including trucking. More on topic. Heating oil by me $2.60-2.90/gal.
Matt

joeq · Post by **joeq** » Sun. Dec. 21, 2014 6:10 pm

Enjoy the low oil prices while they're here. Cause we all know it's only briefly. When things start "really" brewing overseas, that's when we'll feel the wrath...again.

lsayre · Post by **lsayre** » Sun. Dec. 21, 2014 6:14 pm

At $275/ton delivered and after tax for anthracite here, and at 70% efficiency for same, I could break even with a 94% overall efficient propane boiler (if such actually exists) and propane at $1.36 per gallon after tax and delivery.

ddahlgren · Post by **ddahlgren** » Sun. Dec. 21, 2014 6:21 pm

DePippo79 wrote:Guess no one told Blaschak. My dealer says their still going up come spring. I keep saying, "but oil is in a downward spiral". Response, "processing costs keep going up".
Yeah plan B for next year. As I said before I'm all for supporting local business, but I'm not going to get taken advantage of either. Called a mine the other day. Bulk coal delivered to New Hampshire $218.00/ton including trucking. More on topic. Heating oil by me $2.60-2.90/gal.
Matt

How much did you buy for that price?

Post by **Lightning** » Sun. Dec. 21, 2014 6:31 pm

lsayre wrote:At $275/ton delivered and after tax for anthracite here, and at 70% efficiency for same, I could break even with a 94% overall efficient propane boiler (if such actually exists) and propane at $1.36 per gallon after tax and delivery.

I figured them both at 80% (my former propain furnace was rated 80%) but forgot about tax on the propain..

windyhill4.2 · Post by **windyhill4.2** » Sun. Dec. 21, 2014 7:13 pm

Come on guys,think a little . Its not like the mines & breakers are sending there operating cost bills in by the hour or even by the day. You expect that for political reasons they are going to drop the price of coal in just a few days of oil dropping ? The oil in the tank is still at the higher price,the electric is still being billed at a higher price,until the diesel prices stabilize the trucks can't start running cheaper. The oil & propain prices last winter put coal on the level of $ for $ BTU wise @ $1000-$1200 per ton,did any of you pay that much ? Did any of you pay even 1/2 of that ? No,of course you didn't,coal has been & still is a bargain ,coal prices have been steady for many yrs.

coalfan · Post by **coalfan** » Sun. Dec. 21, 2014 7:34 pm

f off all oil companys period gov controlled f them

michaelanthony · Post by **michaelanthony** » Sun. Dec. 21, 2014 8:11 pm

coalfan wrote:f off all oil companys period gov controlled f them

Couldn't have said any better...

coalnewbie · Post by **coalnewbie** » Sun. Dec. 21, 2014 8:16 pm

HO prices could come down to where there is only a modest premium over coal but I am sticking with coal heat as it is just better, nobody is mentioning that one.

windyhill4.2 · Post by **windyhill4.2** » Sun. Dec. 21, 2014 8:30 pm

coalnewbie wrote:HO prices could come down to where there is only a modest premium over coal but I am sticking with coal heat as it is just better, nobody is mentioning that one.

Now you mentioned it twice!

Buy coal & support the local economy (for those users in Pa)Buy coal & support the economy in the USA instead of over there somewhere. Support common sense & decency,not some hate filled destruction bound terrorists.