Push coals off the end of the burner

Re: Push coals off the end of the burner

PostBy: pvolcko On: Mon Jan 05, 2015 11:36 pm

We actually recommend no longer than 100-110ft. While it is standard RJ45 ethernet cable, it works with analog signals as opposed to digital so the length restriction is shorter than a typical ethernet network.

You can certainly use a lower MAX setting than 30. Whatever gives you full grate of fire without pushing burning coals off the end. It is not an exact science, unfortunately, manufacturing variances in the motors, stoker mechanisms, etc. can lead to sometimes significant variance in the MAX setting you will need.
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Re: Push coals off the end of the burner

PostBy: coalnewbie On: Tue Jan 06, 2015 8:47 am

Looking at the ash I can tell you all my CT stoves run best at MAX=25 or under. 30 is OK (a few black flecks and above that things fall apart and over 35 coal is wasted. Multiple years with multiple coal sources have taught me that. That's why I moved up to the AK180 as now MAX=25 is all I need. So the ethernet cable only transmits analog signals, that I did not know. So the marketing question of the day is can this market support a NEST type thermostat system development and what would people pay for it. Guys, it's time for the next generation of stoves. Hmm, think I will start a thread.
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Coal Size/Type: Rice,
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Re: Push coals off the end of the burner

PostBy: Cold_Mainer On: Sat Jan 10, 2015 9:32 am

What good timing to see this thread. I have had a Pocono now for 6 years and it has been dialed in at Min 5 and Max 65. I have not had to change these settings for 4 years and all of a sudden it has started pushing hot coal off the end of the grate. I have my Max down to 35 this morning and am waiting for the stove to settle out to see what that is going to do. . At idle I have 50% of my grate with hot coal with the Min set at 5. This has never happened before. I have a 2 degree swing between day and night temperature settings in the coaltrol. I had alot of unburnt coal last week in my ash pans. I am trying to figure out what has happened. I have a new piece of cat 5 cable and am going to make a new cable this weekend and see if something is wrong there. My thermostat is about 35 feet from my stove on the 2nd floor.
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Hot Air Coal Stoker Furnace: Pocono BV 90,000 BTU
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Re: Push coals off the end of the burner

PostBy: Cold_Mainer On: Sat Jan 10, 2015 1:49 pm

My Max is now down to 20. At a FR of 57 with a Max of 35 my grate was 3/4 covered with hot coal. I have never had my Max down this low before and am absolutey baffled.

Oh.........I love my Pocono, it's warm heat and the warm floors we get from it.

Has anyone updated to the advanced Coal Trol yet?
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Hot Air Coal Stoker Furnace: Pocono BV 90,000 BTU
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Re: Push coals off the end of the burner

PostBy: Uglysquirrel On: Sat Jan 10, 2015 2:14 pm

Call me a dummy though I simply leave my Pocono 'trol in the setup mode with "max" showing. A few pushes of the up and down buttons adjusts the feed rate correlating to the weather expected outside or if my girlfriend wants to run around neek'ed. Convection motor speed set up to be a constant 40 or so which is substantially quieter than a full bore 100 than can occur on auto model. If I do run a max feed rate of 30 or more (seldom) the convection motor speed will be banged up to 50-60 for better heat transfer.

While I can't prove it , running the convection motors at a contact rpm likely helps their bushing lives. Motors run cool all the time too, especially at a convection motor speed of 40 or below.
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Re: Push coals off the end of the burner

PostBy: coalnewbie On: Sat Jan 10, 2015 2:46 pm

4 LL coal trol controlled stoves and the usable MAX was 35 or less. In my application now I plug the convection fan in directly as I want max airflow all the time. The house was very warm this morning and I ran around naked until my wife saw me and threw up.
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Hot Air Coal Stoker Stove: LL AnthraKing 180K, Pocono110K,KStokr 90K, DVC
Hand Fed Coal Stove: Invader 2
Baseburners & Antiques: Wings Best, Glenwood #8(x2) Herald 116x
Coal Size/Type: Rice,
Other Heating: Heating Oil CH, Toyotomi OM 22

Re: Push coals off the end of the burner

PostBy: WNY On: Sat Jan 10, 2015 3:39 pm

my LL Hyfire is Min 8, Max 48 and its been running FR=98, since its been single digits and max'd out and it's just barely burning at the end of the grate, maybe 1/2" of ash. It's keeping up tho.

I haven't really changed any of the setting on it since I put it 7 years ago. i bump the MIN up when it's warmer outside to 10 or 12 to maintain good draft. it's running 450-500 degrees on the front at max burn.
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Re: Push coals off the end of the burner

PostBy: Uglysquirrel On: Sat Jan 10, 2015 8:03 pm

coalnewbie wrote: The house was very warm this morning and I ran around naked until my wife saw me and threw up.



Did she poke out her mind's eye?
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Stove/Furnace Model: Pocono