spc wrote:Replystockingfull wrote:Nobody's denying you the right to your opinions or beliefs. It's when you assert them as facts that some of us would like to be heard. Speaking for myself I don't recall asserting facts unless I could back them up reliably. I've seen a lack of reliably facts from the left though.
My patriotism is no less than anybody else's here. Its not very patriotic to denigrate a dead Presidents affliction with a disease. But it's not of the blind, unquestioning sort which assumes that we always are best and never in need of improvement. Run for office. Where we can do better, why on earth shouldn't we at least try? This is a representative government, we send our elected officials to Wash. & give them the time to study policy & write law. With foreign policy, (I don't mean Nancy Pelosi with a head scarf in Syria) & war they have much more access to info than you or I do. I'm going to trust their judgment not the nyt, the nightly news or yours. If I don't like their decisions or what they say campaigning they won't get my vote.
Hmmm. When do you think Ronnie Ray-guns contracted Alzheimer's? I mean, when is it not "unpatriotic" in your view to say that he contracted the cognitive disorder that he later admitted suffering from?
Why is it OK for you to be disrespectful of Senator Kennedy and the Speaker of the House but "unpatriotic" for me to suggest that we now know the reason Reagan was the "dottering old fool" which I called him at the time.
Our freedom of speech is probably the most precious of all of the rights we have in this great country. You have an absolute right to slander Bill Clinton, Ted Kennedy, Nancy Pelosi, "Barack Hussein Obama" and any other "liberal" bogeymen you choose. And I have the right to believe, and more importantly to declare, that Reagan sold snake oil and nearly destroyed the economy, and that Dubya is an arrogant dope who not only was asleep at the switch leading up to 9/11 but has singlehandedly ruined our standing in the world and started a blood-war with Islam with his ludicrous "cowboy foreign policy" since then.
It's over. The right wing no longer will be permitted to hijack the concept of "patriotism" in this country. It just won't fly anymore. Those of us who believe that actually following the principles on which this country was founded is the truest form of patriotism and will do more to enhance our standing in the world than all the bombs, gulags, wiretaps and other brute force that have been tried recently, now vastly outnumber you. Get used to it.
And be careful about your use of the "patriotism" label. Because you'll be in the minority someday -- soon -- and you won't want to be called "unpatriotic" when your voice has become the dissent.