The Problem With Republicans

The Problem With Republicans

PostBy: Devil505 On: Fri Feb 22, 2008 4:47 pm

The New York Times story about Sen. John McCain merely represents the Republican problem this year....the real meat of this story is what is going to make Republicans very scarce in Washington DC after Nov/2008...........Republican hypocricy! Another Republican President/Congressman/Senator saying (in fact building his career on) one thing & then being caught doing exactly the reverse, in real life. From George Bush's "Compassionate Conservative" who vetos health care for US children to fund his occupation of Iraq to Sen Larrry Craig builds a career against gay rights but turns out to be a screaming fag picking up gays in mens rooms & now McCain, who has always stood against influence peddlers flying around the country in their private jet & probably (not proven yet but, let's be adults here) making decisions in favor of a company who he is busy screwing their 40 years younger, sexy female lobbyist! In November the American people will say this to all Republicans........Get the hell out of my Congress & White House!!
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Re: The Problem With Republicans

PostBy: bksaun On: Fri Feb 22, 2008 4:55 pm

Your close to being right! But you need to call it " The problem with polititians" add a few more names to your list ( from the Democrat side of the isle) and you will have a more accurate picture.

I guess it's a shame we can't find better people to run the country. All the honest folk's avoid politcal job's. Instead of running for a postion they run from it!

BK
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Re: The Problem With Republicans

PostBy: Devil505 On: Fri Feb 22, 2008 5:03 pm

bksaun wrote:Your close to being right! But you need to call it " The problem with polititians" add a few more names to your list ( from the Democrat side of the isle) and you will have a more accurate picture.

I guess it's a shame we can't find better people to run the country. All the honest folk's avoid politcal job's. Instead of running for a postion they run from it!

BK


Now see.....You had to spoil a perfectly good rant by being rational!! We all know that the only bad Democrats are really Republicans posing as Democrats to make them less obvious. :roll:
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Re: The Problem With Republicans

PostBy: Devil505 On: Fri Feb 22, 2008 5:10 pm

Here is my guess for the Washington DC landscape after the Nov election:

President:- B. Obama
VP: - John Edwards

Sec of State- Joe Biden

Sec of Defense - Colin Powell

Atty Gen. ?? (maybe Hillary if she wants it)


Senate - 62 to 38 Democrat
House-??
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Re: The Problem With Republicans

PostBy: gambler On: Fri Feb 22, 2008 5:28 pm

(not proven yet but, let's be adults here) making decisions in favor of a company who he is busy screwing their 40 years younger, sexy female lobbyist!


Thats a very old story and the New York Times did a really bad job of reporting it. There is absolutely no proof that it happened. Hmmmm I see no blue dress here and her last name isn't Flowers and I have never seen him smoking but not inhailing or even sniffing a cigar. But that was a Democrat so I guess that makes it ok depending on what your definition of "is" is.
I don't consider McCain a Republican, he is more like a Democrat in republican clothing.
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Re: The Problem With Republicans

PostBy: Richard S. On: Fri Feb 22, 2008 5:39 pm

gambler wrote:I don't consider McCain a Republican, he is more like a Democrat in republican clothing.


Please refer to him by him by is proper name, "President elect". :P
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Re: The Problem With Republicans

PostBy: Devil505 On: Fri Feb 22, 2008 5:51 pm

Richard S. wrote:
gambler wrote:I don't consider McCain a Republican, he is more like a Democrat in republican clothing.


Please refer to him by him by is proper name, "President elect". :P


I think this country has had a belly full of George Bush's policies Richard. Just look at the polls
(I predict that McCain will lose by a 1972 style landslide)

(Neither Bush or Congress is rated well. "Change" is what the voters will vote for)
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Re: The Problem With Republicans

PostBy: Richard S. On: Fri Feb 22, 2008 6:16 pm

They had a poll in yeterdays paper for Pennsylvania voters, he was neck and neck with both Obama or Clinton in separate polls. So that's at least one state thats up for grabs at the moment. McCain IMO has very good chance to win, he's certainly not your average Republican, you may not agree with many of his views but you have to admit he's a straight talker and you can expect that he'll do what he says he's going to do. I think the most important aspect is he has an impeachable past personal military experience, trying to argue anything about his views on Iraq is going to be near impossible as he's been there done that so to speak. 5 years in POW camp is certainly no picnic and you can bet his views about anything in Iraq aren't being influenced by anyone. This will swing many voters on the fence no matter which way they are leaning.

The Democrats have a very tough battle ahead of them. ;)
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Re: The Problem With Republicans

PostBy: coalkirk On: Fri Feb 22, 2008 6:29 pm

Devil5052 wrote:The New York Times story about Sen. John McCain merely represents the Republican problem this year....the real meat of this story is what is going to make Republicans very scarce in Washington DC after Nov/2008...........Republican hypocricy! Another Republican President/Congressman/Senator saying (in fact building his career on) one thing & then being caught doing exactly the reverse, in real life. From George Bush's "Compassionate Conservative" who vetos health care for US children to fund his occupation of Iraq to Sen Larrry Craig builds a career against gay rights but turns out to be a screaming fag picking up gays in mens rooms & now McCain, who has always stood against influence peddlers flying around the country in their private jet & probably (not proven yet but, let's be adults here) making decisions in favor of a company who he is busy screwing their 40 years younger, sexy female lobbyist! In November the American people will say this to all Republicans........Get the hell out of my Congress & White House!!


The Times story was a journalistic piece of crap. All un-named sources, former McCain aides supposedly. If they had something real, they would have named names. It was just a political hit job. Bob Bennett, who gave an interview to the Times for this story, provided at least 12 instances of McCain voting against the interest of this lobbyists clients interests. They chose not to publish that as it didn't fit the agenda of the story. As for flying around the country in private jets, they all do that, or did do that. Most of that has been reined in by what? McCain-Feingold campaign finance reform bill. I assume you are mostly referring to McCains involvement in the so called Keating Five. This was the Savings and Loan Scandal from the late 80's, early 90's. Guess who the Keating Five were? Alan Cranston - Democrat, Dennis Deconcini - Democrat, John Glenn - Democrat, Donald Riegle - Democrat and John McCain - sort of a Republican. You gotta go beyond NPR to get the full story.
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Re: The Problem With Republicans

PostBy: LsFarm On: Fri Feb 22, 2008 7:35 pm

SCHEDULE OF EVENTS - 2008 DEMOCRATIC CONVENTION
>>
>>
>>
>> 7:00 pm Opening flag burning
>>
>> 7:15 pm Pledge of Allegiance to the U.N.
>>
>> 7:20 pm Ted Kennedy proposes a toast
>>
>> 7:25 pm Nonreligious prayer and worship with Jesse Jackson
>> and
>> Al Sharpton
>>
>> 7:45 pm Ceremonial tree hugging
>>
>> 7:55 pm Ted Kennedy proposes a toast
>>
>> 8:00 pm How I Invented the Internet - Al Gore
>>
>> 8:15 pm Gay Wedding Planning - Barney Frank, presiding
>>
>> 8:35 pm Ted Kennedy proposes a toast
>>
>> 8:40 pm Our Troops are War Criminals - John Kerry
>>
>> 9:00 pm Memorial service for Saddam and his sons - Cindy
>> Sheehan
>> and Susan Sarandon
>>
>> 10:00 pm "Answering Machine Etiquette" - Alec Baldwin
>>
>> 11:00 pm Ted Kennedy proposes a toast
>>
>> 11:05 pm Collection for the Osama Bin Laden kidney transplant
>> fund
>> - Barbra Streisand
>>
>> 11:15 pm Free the Freedom Fighters from Guantanamo Bay - Sean
>> Penn
>>
>> 11:30 pm Oval Office Affairs - William Jefferson Clinton
>>
>> 11:45 pm Ted Kennedy proposes a toast
>>
>> 11:50 pm How George Bush Brought Down the World Trade Towers -
>> Howard Dean
>>
>> 12:15 am "Truth in Broadcasting Award" - Presented to Dan
>> Rather
>> by Michael Moore
>>
>> 12:25 am Ted Kennedy proposes a toast
>>
>> 12:30 am Satellite address by Mahmoud Ahmadinejad
>>
>> 12:45 am Nomination of Hillary Rodham Clinton - Nancy Pelosi
>>
>> 1:00 am Ted Kennedy proposes a toast
>>
>> 1:05 am Coronation of Hillary Rodham Clinton
>>
>> 1:30 am Ted Kennedy proposes a toast
>>
>> 1:35 am Bill Clinton asks Ted Kennedy to drive Hillary home
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Re: The Problem With Republicans

PostBy: Flyer5 On: Fri Feb 22, 2008 7:58 pm

LsFarm wrote:SCHEDULE OF EVENTS - 2008 DEMOCRATIC CONVENTION
>>
>>
>>
>> 7:00 pm Opening flag burning
>>
>> 7:15 pm Pledge of Allegiance to the U.N.
>>
>> 7:20 pm Ted Kennedy proposes a toast
>>
>> 7:25 pm Nonreligious prayer and worship with Jesse Jackson
>> and
>> Al Sharpton
>>
>> 7:45 pm Ceremonial tree hugging
>>
>> 7:55 pm Ted Kennedy proposes a toast
>>
>> 8:00 pm How I Invented the Internet - Al Gore
>>
>> 8:15 pm Gay Wedding Planning - Barney Frank, presiding
>>
>> 8:35 pm Ted Kennedy proposes a toast
>>
>> 8:40 pm Our Troops are War Criminals - John Kerry
>>
>> 9:00 pm Memorial service for Saddam and his sons - Cindy
>> Sheehan
>> and Susan Sarandon
>>
>> 10:00 pm "Answering Machine Etiquette" - Alec Baldwin
>>
>> 11:00 pm Ted Kennedy proposes a toast
>>
>> 11:05 pm Collection for the Osama Bin Laden kidney transplant
>> fund
>> - Barbra Streisand
>>
>> 11:15 pm Free the Freedom Fighters from Guantanamo Bay - Sean
>> Penn
>>
>> 11:30 pm Oval Office Affairs - William Jefferson Clinton
>>
>> 11:45 pm Ted Kennedy proposes a toast
>>
>> 11:50 pm How George Bush Brought Down the World Trade Towers -
>> Howard Dean
>>
>> 12:15 am "Truth in Broadcasting Award" - Presented to Dan
>> Rather
>> by Michael Moore
>>
>> 12:25 am Ted Kennedy proposes a toast
>>
>> 12:30 am Satellite address by Mahmoud Ahmadinejad
>>
>> 12:45 am Nomination of Hillary Rodham Clinton - Nancy Pelosi
>>
>> 1:00 am Ted Kennedy proposes a toast
>>
>> 1:05 am Coronation of Hillary Rodham Clinton
>>
>> 1:30 am Ted Kennedy proposes a toast
>>
>> 1:35 am Bill Clinton asks Ted Kennedy to drive Hillary home






Now thats FUNNY !!!! :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Re: The Problem With Republicans

PostBy: Devil505 On: Fri Feb 22, 2008 8:00 pm

coalkirk wrote:
Devil5052 wrote:The New York Times story about Sen. John McCain merely represents the Republican problem this year....the real meat of this story is what is going to make Republicans very scarce in Washington DC after Nov/2008...........Republican hypocricy! Another Republican President/Congressman/Senator saying (in fact building his career on) one thing & then being caught doing exactly the reverse, in real life. From George Bush's "Compassionate Conservative" who vetos health care for US children to fund his occupation of Iraq to Sen Larrry Craig builds a career against gay rights but turns out to be a screaming fag picking up gays in mens rooms & now McCain, who has always stood against influence peddlers flying around the country in their private jet & probably (not proven yet but, let's be adults here) making decisions in favor of a company who he is busy screwing their 40 years younger, sexy female lobbyist! In November the American people will say this to all Republicans........Get the hell out of my Congress & White House!!


The Times story was a journalistic piece of crap. All un-named sources, former McCain aides supposedly. If they had something real, they would have named names. It was just a political hit job. Bob Bennett, who gave an interview to the Times for this story, provided at least 12 instances of McCain voting against the interest of this lobbyists clients interests. They chose not to publish that as it didn't fit the agenda of the story. As for flying around the country in private jets, they all do that, or did do that. Most of that has been reined in by what? McCain-Feingold campaign finance reform bill. I assume you are mostly referring to McCains involvement in the so called Keating Five. This was the Savings and Loan Scandal from the late 80's, early 90's. Guess who the Keating Five were? Alan Cranston - Democrat, Dennis Deconcini - Democrat, John Glenn - Democrat, Donald Riegle - Democrat and John McCain - sort of a Republican. You gotta go beyond NPR to get the full story.


I actualy never listen to NPR as it's to boring. I generaly listen to right wing talk radio (except Rush "the drug peddler" & Sean Hannity) to get their side. In Mass I listen to Neal Borks & Howie Carr. Both right wingers, but interesting. As far as the NY Times story goes , the story was not that McCain had an affair, the story was that McCain's campaign managers were worried about the young lobbyist getting to close to McCain for his own good. Something his campaign manager Weaver stated for the record.

This was what NY Times reported corroberated by Weaver:

"Convinced the relationship had become romantic, some of his top advisers intervened to protect the candidate from himself -- instructing staff members to block the woman's access, privately warning her away and repeatedly confronting him, several people involved in the campaign said on the condition of anonymity," the Times reported.

NY Times

"Our policy is, we publish stories when they are ready," he said. "'Ready' means the facts have been nailed down to our satisfaction, the subjects have all been given a full and fair chance to respond and the reporting has been written up with all the proper context and caveats. This story was no exception."

You would have stretch credulity to believe the NY Times would just make this story up or print such a story based on nothing. The NY Times is a business & they would not commit corporate suicide.
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Re: The Problem With Republicans

PostBy: coalkirk On: Fri Feb 22, 2008 9:15 pm

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/02/21/us/po ... ted=1&_r=1

Here's a link to the Times story. Weaver is not his campaign manager, he's an advisor. He also did not cooberate that statement.
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Re: The Problem With Republicans

PostBy: Flyer5 On: Fri Feb 22, 2008 9:19 pm

Why does everyone care who the politicians are screwing ?Clintons trial and impeachment took away a lot of his ability to be president . I didn't care for him much .But that trial was such a waste of time and money .As long as it isn't me they are screwing with I don't care . Most politicians are thieves liars or crooks . Why is it that everyone is so suprised when they get caught ?
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Re: The Problem With Republicans

PostBy: pret On: Fri Feb 22, 2008 9:32 pm

Thank you everyone... I have THOROUGHLY enjoyed this post so far! Nice ranting Devil... sweet and I mean SWEET 'schedule of event' Greg... haven't laughed that much in a long time!

Again, thanks everyone!
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