Noobie's First Coal Stove Fire...

 
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Seagrave1963
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Post by Seagrave1963 » Wed. Dec. 31, 2014 9:26 am

ddahlgren wrote:Mano and something to control the draft otherwise you are sending all that heat up the chimney. I have a MPD and a Field draft regulator and use them both to keep the heat in the stove and the house. Buy or make a poker with a 90 degree bend at the end around 2 or 3 inches long to slice under the grates should you need to clear ash the shaker can't get out. Above all don't obsess over the one match club in your first year. It is mine and shut down a couple times on purpose to make changes to the installation and once just plain lost the fire from lack of talent on my part. I am still on my training wheels and will be for the better part of this winter. Just passing along what I have figured out so far. If there is one thing I have very clear in my head at this point is after shaking down if you look at the underside of the grates and don't see bright orange all across them break out the poker and slice between them until you do. If a little burning coal falls into the ash pan so be it. Some heavy welding / fireplace gloves a must as well as this stuff is all very hot. Above all empty the ash pan religiously before it is full to the top and be kind to the grates rather than go shopping for new ones.
Thanks for the guidance.

Got the gloves (welders type with long gauntlets) and have a 90* poker that is very thin and gets through the grate openings. Also got a complete spare door based on another members post in case the glass/ceramic breaks.

On the first shakedown this morning, there was a nice orange glow all the way across the ash pan!

 
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Post by Seagrave1963 » Wed. Dec. 31, 2014 9:29 am

titleist1 wrote:You are off to a great start getting a full nights burn and no outfire!!! :dancing:

So how warm was the house this morning and how nice was it walking toward the stove and feeling that wave of heat? :punk:
ROCKIN'!

This house hasn't been this warm in the winter since we moved in 12 years ago! :up:

It was a little cool (68*) in the living room, but after shaking it down and reloading, it was back up to 75* in the main area of the house where we tend to hangout.

This coal-thing is pretty cool so far!

 
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Post by titleist1 » Wed. Dec. 31, 2014 9:41 am

I'm bettin' a bag o' coal that after a week or so you'll have the draft dialed in so that you will be waking up to 75* also!

You can tell from many of the threads tinkering and tweaking is at least half the fun for half us knuckleheads. :P

As mentioned you may need to add a manual damper or a baro damper to 'control the burn' a little better and get a more consistent heat output. A manometer (or magnehelic gauge) is a useful tool (toy!) to have so you can check the draft and adjust your primary air to optimize the burn and coal usage.


 
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Post by michaelanthony » Wed. Dec. 31, 2014 5:25 pm

Seagrave1963 wrote:ROCKIN'!

This house hasn't been this warm in the winter since we moved in 12 years ago! :up:

It was a little cool (68*) in the living room, but after shaking it down and reloading, it was back up to 75* in the main area of the house where we tend to hangout.

This coal-thing is pretty cool so far!
I remember when 68* was considered warm. :lol:

 
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Post by Snotzalot » Fri. Jan. 02, 2015 11:16 pm

michaelanthony wrote:SG, did you happen to get a couple magnetic thermometers to keep track of the pipe and stove temps?
http://www.amazon.com/Nubee-Temperature-Non-conta ... hermometer
check out the name on the gun...you gotta' buy it! :roll:
Picked one up, AMAZING!

Just serviced the Old Mill. 270 degs on the stack after 12 hours, opened the ash door, let it heat to 400 on the stack. Shook it down, when done stack up to about 550.

My magnetic thermometers pretty close.

40 F out side, stack 270 and house 70F, sweet!

 
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Post by Seagrave1963 » Sat. Jan. 03, 2015 9:10 am

titleist1 wrote:I'm bettin' a bag o' coal that after a week or so you'll have the draft dialed in so that you will be waking up to 75* also!

You can tell from many of the threads tinkering and tweaking is at least half the fun for half us knuckleheads. :P

As mentioned you may need to add a manual damper or a baro damper to 'control the burn' a little better and get a more consistent heat output. A manometer (or magnehelic gauge) is a useful tool (toy!) to have so you can check the draft and adjust your primary air to optimize the burn and coal usage.
Well, we're getting the hang of this after a few days. Almost lost the fire twice but it came back just fine. Since the first morning, it has been between 75* - 77* in the main living area and good air flow throughout the rest of the downstairs (bedrooms) has made them 65* to 68* in the morning (good sleeping temp!).

So far, the temp has been pretty even through the day and evening, but will keep getting a damper in mind if we start seeing wide temp swings. We are kind of controlling the burn manually now - When we wake up we slide the air control over to 1.5 and before we got to bed at night, we slide the control over to 3. As the temps get really low (for here 0* - 10* at night) we'll probably slide it over to 4 or 5 out of 10.

So, titleist, I guess we owe you a bag of coal! :lol:


 
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Post by titleist1 » Sat. Jan. 03, 2015 9:37 am

Great to hear you're getting it dialed in!! It's happened time and time again on here with folks learning & tweaking the settings for their stove and getting better performance so I'd feel guilty collecting on such an easy bet ! Have fun keeping warm this winter. :)

 
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Post by joeq » Sat. Jan. 03, 2015 10:03 am

davidmcbeth3 wrote:Someone is going to be jealous ... about picturing the blue flames (someone was having problems getting a photo of 'em).
Hey! I heard that, Dave. (You're right). He must have a better camera than mine. Let's see some pix of it fully fueled, and hot.

 
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Post by Seagrave1963 » Sat. Jan. 03, 2015 10:36 am

joeq wrote:
davidmcbeth3 wrote:Someone is going to be jealous ... about picturing the blue flames (someone was having problems getting a photo of 'em).
Hey! I heard that, Dave. (You're right). He must have a better camera than mine. Let's see some pix of it fully fueled, and hot.
How is this? :)

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