using too much coal?

Re: using too much coal?

PostBy: JeepinPete On: Wed Jan 07, 2015 12:19 am

Your air is on the low side. 4 teeth, 4.5 air is the recommended minimum setting. Looks like you are set at 3.5.

The six inch stack will work with the minimum feed settings if you have good draft. Right or wrong, I have been doing it for the last couple years. From experience, you will need to clean out the stack more frequently as you do not have much margin for fly ash blockage.

I skipped the manometer and went with a gauge to measure the draft. Watch ebay and you can probably find a better deal than this: http://www.ebay.com/itm/DWYER-MAGNEHELIC-2000-00C-0-25-WATER-15PSIG-DIFFERENTIAL-PRESSURE-GAGE-/331410735553?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item4d299e81c1
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Re: using too much coal?

PostBy: JohnTresk On: Sun Dec 04, 2016 11:26 pm

I know this is an older post but why do you say that you will use more coal by not sealing the middle base support? I didn't seal mine and ive been burning about 40# a day in NE PA. No domestic hot water and heating 2400sqft 100yo home. Its not drafty, new windows and solid. No insulation and always a beautiful 72 degrees no problem. I have all my settings tweaked and right but its just burning more than I think it should. Usually 10 minute run tumes but they're frequent. I don't even need a timer. Now that I seen about sealing that middle support, maybe im just drafting it right by everything and up the chimney. Damn it!!

Ps, I think I andwered my own question.
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Stoker Coal Boiler: EFM 520
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Re: using too much coal?

PostBy: fifthg On: Mon Dec 05, 2016 12:25 am

40# a day sounds like nothing to complain about for the conditions you describe,but I am a miner,not a plumbing and heating expert. I only complain when people don't burn enough!
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Re: using too much coal?

PostBy: JohnTresk On: Mon Dec 05, 2016 1:50 am

fifthg wrote:40# a day sounds like nothing to complain about for the conditions you describe,but I am a miner,not a plumbing and heating expert. I only complain when people don't burn enough!

You're probably right. Im trying to get to 20# a day lol. I wish. This is my first year with coal in this house. We bought it in April this year and used the DS for heat till summer. 3 months ago I yanked the oil burner out and put in an efm 520 so im always trying to better it till I get where I want. Idk how good is good enough though. Basement is usually cool even with the stack heater. I wired that to come on when the stoker is running only to get the most heat and not just blowing cool air around.
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Stoker Coal Boiler: EFM 520
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Re: using too much coal?

PostBy: fifthg On: Mon Dec 05, 2016 6:02 am

If your stack heater is what I think it is,I don't know if it is a good idea to use with coal,due to fly ash accumulation and draft interference that can result.I hope a plumbing and heating specialist will verify my concern.You might have to remove that.
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Baseburners & Antiques: Peninsular Western Hot Blast No.44K and Reading Foundry & Supply Co.
Coal Size/Type: stove,nut,pea,buck,and rice -Gale Mining Co Anthracite

Re: using too much coal?

PostBy: Rob R. On: Mon Dec 05, 2016 6:20 am

The stack temperature on an EFM is so low to begin with I don't think that heat reclaimer is doing much, other than potentially causing a restriction like mentioned above.

That gap between the base support and boiler will seal itself with flyash over the course of a season. I used to plug mine with a piece of rope gasket but no longer worry about it.
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Re: using too much coal?

PostBy: blrman07 On: Mon Dec 05, 2016 7:09 am

JohnTresk wrote:
fifthg wrote:40# a day sounds like nothing to complain about for the conditions you describe,but I am a miner,not a plumbing and heating expert. I only complain when people don't burn enough!

You're probably right. Im trying to get to 20# a day lol. I wish. This is my first year with coal in this house. We bought it in April this year and used the DS for heat till summer. 3 months ago I yanked the oil burner out and put in an efm 520 so im always trying to better it till I get where I want. Idk how good is good enough though. Basement is usually cool even with the stack heater. I wired that to come on when the stoker is running only to get the most heat and not just blowing cool air around.


I am also in N E Pa and I have a hand fired vigilant casting 2310. I am burning a little under 40 a day heating 985 sq feet of 121 year old 2 story 3 bedroom single bath patch house. Your 40 a day for what your heating sounds good. But then again when my wife got bedridden she wanted the house kept at 78-80. The good part was the stove cranked it out and I controlled the temp with judicious use of the front door and window stats.
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Re: using too much coal?

PostBy: JohnTresk On: Mon Dec 05, 2016 8:17 pm

I did notice that the stack heater doesn't really put out too much heat. I was trying to warm up my my basement a little more, to about 70-72 from 63-65. Draft is good, I had to adjust my baro accordingly as I had too much draft. I think I might pipe in a radiator or two down there. It wont be until next year though. The wife says im getting crazy with the heat lol. Thanks guys for the input, I guess im doing alright then after all. Not saying im not open to suggestions but im assuming im alright. That ledge is blocked up with soot by the way. Thanks guys and ill keep your wife in my prayers Rev Larry.
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Stoker Coal Boiler: EFM 520
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Re: using too much coal?

PostBy: JohnTresk On: Mon Dec 05, 2016 8:18 pm

And Rev Larry, im in McAdoo!
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