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Post by xandrew245x » Sun. Jan. 11, 2015 9:28 am

Well the basement is nice and toasty, i'm not going to make any huge changes until we get out of this cold snap and I see how it does on its own, the problem I am seeing with the incense is that I am getting cold air coming into the living room from the dining room, this needs to go the opposite way, I need it pulling out and back to the basement.


 
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Post by xandrew245x » Sun. Jan. 11, 2015 9:39 am

Here is a general diagram of what I want to do, there is already the vent in the bedroom, and there is one in the living room, I want to add another in the living room, and then a cold air in the dining room.

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Post by titleist1 » Sun. Jan. 11, 2015 12:41 pm

Good job getting the stove to give nice consistent heat!!

I'd do the dining room return first and see how things stabilize for you.

 
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Post by xandrew245x » Sun. Jan. 11, 2015 12:42 pm

Yeah I figured I would cut a whole in the wall in the dining room to add a return duct before I decided to cut a hole in the floor in the living room.

 
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Post by xandrew245x » Sun. Jan. 11, 2015 1:13 pm

I'm going to mess around with it a bit this week, but if it doesn't work out then I am probably going to move it upstairs and vent it through my fireplace, and put the pellet stove in the basement, the pellet stove would be much more on demand heat when we want the basement to be heated, I am hoping I can get the heat moving upstairs though.

 
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Post by xandrew245x » Mon. Jan. 12, 2015 7:11 am

Yesterday I had a really lazy and cold burn all day, found out the grates were clogged up with ash when I reloaded at 4, I got it all cleaned out so I could see a nice orange glow underneath, and since then it has been humming along at 450 degrees. I am happy so far with the results, I am seeing a pretty balanced temp among the main floor, anywhere between 67-70 is where my temps have been on the first floor and 73-75 in the basement. I am going to build a heat shield to collect the hot air blowing off the front and duct it to the living room, and a dampened line to the bedroom, even though I probably won't need it.

Had my first experience this morning to how quickly a coal fire can go. I cracked the load and ash door to revive the fire, which was actually burning still pretty nicely after 9 and a half hours, I went upstairs to get dressed, about 10 minutes, I went down the door was over 500 degrees and the baffle inside was starting to glow red, it was HOT, so I quickly threw coal in and left the load door wide open until it cooled down a bit, didn't take long today to reload, about 15 minutes. So far today I have loaded in about 15 pounds of coal.

 
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Post by SWPaDon » Mon. Jan. 12, 2015 7:18 am

Glad to hear that it's beginning to work well for you.


 
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Post by xandrew245x » Mon. Jan. 12, 2015 7:21 am

I'm thinking the key is I need to find better airflow and temperatures should equal out pretty well, seems for whatever reason I am not getting the best flow of cold air out of the living room/dining room side. Its wanting to suck cold air into the living room instead of finding its way back down to the basement, that is probably a good indication that I should have a cold air return in the living room.

 
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Post by SWPaDon » Mon. Jan. 12, 2015 7:28 am

I have no doubt that you will figure out the proper airflow.

 
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Post by xandrew245x » Mon. Jan. 12, 2015 7:36 am

Me too, its just going to take some time, just have to figure out where the cold air wants to go naturally and work with it.

 
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Post by xandrew245x » Mon. Jan. 12, 2015 7:47 am

McGiever wrote:Check how warm your oil burner gun gets sitting there on the left side of the stove...water heater on right should be alright if it isn't natural gas.
I was looking back through my thread and just realized I missed this before and wanted to give you a response to it.

There is practically no temp different to the ambient room temp to the oil gun, or water heater. The stove has an 8" to combustible rating on the sides.

 
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Post by ddahlgren » Mon. Jan. 12, 2015 1:57 pm

If you have a candle or some incense walk around with it and check both high and low and should give a good idea which way the air is moving.

 
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Post by xandrew245x » Mon. Jan. 12, 2015 2:08 pm

Thats great advice dd, I've used incense to track my airflow some, the bedroom I have a cold airflow out pretty strong and warm in, living room is the opposite, cold in and warm out. The problem is I am pretty limited to where I can move warm air to via ductwork because of my drop ceiling in the basement.

 
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Post by ddahlgren » Mon. Jan. 12, 2015 2:19 pm

I have no ductwork so used strips of TP taped to door headers to see where the hot air went and made the assumption if hot air went in cold air went out.

 
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Post by xandrew245x » Mon. Jan. 12, 2015 2:23 pm

A lot of my issue is a lot of the heat is getting stuck in the stove room in the basement, I'm trying to get it moved out of there and into the living space. There is an insulated wall between the utility room and the adjoining room. They built the wall right up against the joist of the floor, creating a complete barrier.


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