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Post by Liz570 » Wed. Jan. 07, 2015 1:07 pm

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Ok , I found the camera. Took some photos of the stove. Coal dust everywhere but hey! Mrs. Clean I am not.
Look at the inside of the doors. Do they look normal? We know that there is a bolt missing on the one side but after looking at the diagram I am not sure what to think. It looks like a mishmash of pieces put together. Also the right door has washers added to bring it up to level so it meshes with stove body. The doors look warped to me more of a gap at top then bottom...but it may be normal. I don't know. it seems to seal with gasket in place. So if you have any thoughts I would like to hear them.
The blurry photo is the gap that you can see the fire thru at the top edge of the doors.

 
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Post by windyhill4.2 » Wed. Jan. 07, 2015 1:25 pm

Its hard to tell exactly from the pics,but the door gasket looks like it is flush in the doors groove especially in the corners. The gasket should be out far enough that when the door is closed the gasket gets crushed against the stove body.That could be tested with a dollar bill when the stove is less than hot.

 
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Post by D-frost » Wed. Jan. 07, 2015 1:41 pm

Hello,
Liz, good Pics. First, when you did the candle flame test, did you find any leaks on the ash pan door? Second, where were the leaks on the loading doors? Third, looking at your pic of the right door, I think you are missing the vertical gasket that seals the seam between the two doors. I went back to the parts diagram of the doors,(web page) and it shows a vertical gasket on the inside of the right door. That could seal the gap at the top, in your first pic. Also, the two missing screws, if they cannot be replaced, fill the holes and seam with Permatex. If the leaks on the top doors are where the gaskets are, I would replace the gaskets. You have a beautiful stove there, guys.
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Post by Liz570 » Wed. Jan. 07, 2015 2:21 pm

I just did the candle test again to confirm leaks. It's hard to tell about the ashpan door as it is so close to the load door. The lower edge may be leaking some what but there is more of a draft under the stove. There is a shroud under the stove between the ashpan slot & the floor. What that is all about I have no clue as it doesn't go anywhere.... maybe just a lot of cold air. I would say at this point the leakage is minimal if any on ashpan door.

Leaks on loading door where the two doors over lap. It's a bit hard to say about the top edge as the stove juts out from the door edge , hard to get the candle to cooperate + wax dripping all over the stove. :shock:

I went back to the parts diagram of the doors,(web page) and it shows a vertical gasket on the inside of the right door. That could seal the gap at the top, in your first pic
Is that the gasket #3 in diagram? that would makes total sense except there is a gasket in there already. but maybe not long enough or wide enough to seal? will plan to replace all gaskets as soon as weather permits.

The second photo shows where the steel plate below the glass is not centered on the door. Originally that part was hitting the frame until hubby ground it down to fit. It still bugs me that it's not positioned correctly ( in my mind). compare it to opposite side & you'll understand what I mean. the fourth pic from the bottom shows the same door but from the edge. notice the unevenness on the metal under the glass. it looks bent or warp or not secured in place.

the two missing screws, if they cannot be replaced, fill the holes and seam with Permatex
The screws are stripped & the man that sold the stove to us tried to repair them but it didn't work. Maybe we need just need new doors?
Thanks for taking a visual tour of the stove. I appreciate it.
Keep warm...but not too warm. :lol:


 
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Post by D-frost » Wed. Jan. 07, 2015 2:50 pm

Liz,
Yes,#3, I didn't see it in your pic, but probably wrong viewing angle. The pan on the bottom is probably a 'heat shield', for the floor. It will play havoc with a candle. When the stove is cool, a dollar bill test on the ash door should find a leak. The specs call for 9mm gasket, that's not much(like 3/8") You might be able to go to 1/2",vertical, between the doors, if that's where the worst leak is. If the stove is working good for you, just try to seal the area where the air leak is, and move forward from there. Best of luck to you.
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P.S. The plates on the bottom of the load doors, I believe, are there to disperse the secondary air over the glass(wood burners call it 'air wash') to help keep the glass clear. If it's not binding on anything, it should be fine. I use Handi-wipes to clean the Chubby window, when stove temp is warm(250*-300*).

 
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Post by michaelanthony » Wed. Jan. 07, 2015 3:18 pm

Thanks for the photo's Liz, something tells me this stove was taken apart and put back together incorrectly before you bought it, this could have encouraged the sale as I could not part with such a well structured stove that looks like something Gen. Montgomery lead to battle.
Anyway my point being the steel plate beneath the glass in pic #2 appears to be short on the left and longer to the right where I assume hubby ground to allow it to close, the plate could have been turned around or belongs on the other door. Are the doors equal in with.
Picture #4 shows the other door and the steel plate beneath the glass appears short on the right, this is how I came up with my observation. I would try to find the correct screws, bolts etc. and most likely a metric size.
As noted previously the door gaskets appear smaller than needed and one missing that runs vertically between the doors.
one side note: I noticed the side firebricks are inserted in the steel body and come to a point well above your present fire, do you pile the coal up following the outline of the firebricks? I would...best of luck.
Mike.
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Post by D-frost » Wed. Jan. 07, 2015 3:31 pm

MA,
I 've been flipping back and forth from the parts diagram. They only show one panel, not two different.(http://www.stovespares.co.uk) I was thinking the same thing.
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Post by Liz570 » Wed. Jan. 07, 2015 6:49 pm

Hey, thanks. I think everyone is on track with this stove. something tells me this stove was taken apart and put back together incorrectly before you bought it, I feel the same way. There is a bit more to this story. The man we bought this stove from sells many types of stoves but I don't think he actually burns them. He simply repairs & replaces & paints ( now I might be wrong about this but....woman's intuition ;) ) So when we went to see the stoves he had for sale, he had a Darby but it was promised to someone else. He told us he would be getting two more & we could buy one of them. No problem! well, Hubby is eager to get a coal stove...very eager. and the stove seller not so much as he has a full time job & stoves are his hobby/part time job. 3 week+ wait till it could be delivered. Well finally after much "encouragement" from Hubby the stove was delivered & set up. Happy day!
Remember this 'new' stove is sight unseen but the promise that it is ever bit as nice as the one we saw on our first visit.....Oh my!
so enough of all that..
Fast forward. We noticed certain quirks with the stove after it was here for a few days. The doors did not seem to close properly, the stove would & would not hold a fire depending on???? we did what was obvious in regards to repairs/adjustments.
Enter the coal forum.....(Thank you) I know I say that a lot but you have no idea how much I appreciate the
the advice/guidance from experienced coal burners. :)
We will make the changes suggested and continue to enjoy our stove & the forum.
Hubby is grumping around complaining about the cold outside & telling me we will make changes when the weather warms up!!! NOT NOW! GRRRRRRRRR....
:mad:
so I will close for now...Thank you again. keep warm. liz


 
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Post by franco b » Wed. Jan. 07, 2015 7:10 pm

Liz570 wrote:Hubby is grumping around complaining about the cold outside & telling me we will make changes when the weather warms up!!! NOT NOW! GRRRRRRRRR....
Hubby is right. You have the routine down and the stove operating OK, for which you deserve a lot of credit. Making repairs there are always problems that crop up and while it is freezing in the house is not the time to cope.

 
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Post by D-frost » Wed. Jan. 07, 2015 7:31 pm

Liz,
I agree with hubby and franco. It's working, take it slow moving forward. Michael Anthony hit on something, regarding the lower plates. They could be on the wrong door. If you can measure with a tape, from each outer screw to where the plate should end, and match the plates. To me, it almost looks like the one on the right needs to be flipped (front to back), to be correct, that is if the holes line up. Stay warm, 'tis a very cold week.
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Post by Liz570 » Thu. Jan. 08, 2015 7:04 am

D-frost wrote:Liz,
I agree with hubby and franco. It's working, take it slow moving forward. Michael Anthony hit on something, regarding the lower plates. They could be on the wrong door. If you can measure with a tape, from each outer screw to where the plate should end, and match the plates. To me, it almost looks like the one on the right needs to be flipped (front to back), to be correct, that is if the holes line up. Stay warm, 'tis a very cold week.
Cheers
yes to everything that's been stated. I agree. The stove has been working well and we will make adjustments when time is right. Maybe we should start looking for a second CBD for parts? Hubby thinks we should have a spare set of doors....just in case.
Anyway happy burning to all of you. & Thanks for being there! :)
liz

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