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Post by forgach0206 » Fri. Jan. 09, 2015 1:44 am

I can't seem to heat my house with this stoker. I came home this morning (work overnight shifts) to a house that was 57 degrees. I have ash close tot he edge of the 90k side of the stove. A reading above the door with a stove temp around 400 degrees. I have a heat jacket on the stove with two 8" holes that run into my round 8" ducts. I even had the 40k side burning and I couldn't get the stove temp much past 500 degrees. Temps at my floor registers are around 110-140 degrees depending on how close to the stove it is. The basement temp near the stove is a constant 70. I don't have any convection fans hooked up just an inline fan on one side of the ducts on top of the jacket. Flue Temps are around 110-120. I don't have a manometer. I never had a problem with the draft on the old hand fired stove. Any help to get a better burn or to maybe move the warm air around is appreciated. Also it is 100% manual from the fan speed for combustion and feed rate of the coal.

 
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Post by WNY » Fri. Jan. 09, 2015 5:36 am

Have you checked your draft with a draft gauge. ? have cleaned out the stove/pipe for ash build up lately?

How close to the edge do you have the ash? 1" or less is ok. as long as you're pushing hot coals off, you're good.

Are using a coaltrol for the thermostat? whats your settings? min/max, etc..

whats the temp setting for the inline fan? is it adjustable.

I had mine close to 500 degrees last night on the front. it maintains about 65 in this big house running about max out. when it's 0 outside. I run both burners when it starts getting constantly below 20 degrees.

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Post by forgach0206 » Fri. Jan. 09, 2015 5:47 am

WNY wrote:Have you checked your draft with a draft gauge. ? have cleaned out the stove/pipe for ash build up lately?

How close to the edge do you have the ash? 1" or less is ok. as long as you're pushing hot coals off, you're good.

Are using a coaltrol for the thermostat? whats your settings? min/max, etc..

whats the temp setting for the inline fan? is it adjustable.

I had mine close to 500 degrees last night on the front. it maintains about 65 in this big house running about max out. when it's 0 outside. I run both burners when it starts getting constantly below 20 degrees.
I didn't check the draft with a gauge. I don't have a meter to check it. I usually clean the fly ash out once every week or two. don't get much built up. I'm not pushing hot coals off the edge. There is no thermostat on my stove I have manual dimmer type switch to control the combustion fan and the knob to adjust the feed rate. The inline fan is also controlled only by a dimmer type switch.

 
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Post by titleist1 » Fri. Jan. 09, 2015 7:44 am

Welcome to the forum!

Do you have any return air piped back to the stoker?

The 110-140 temp you mention near the register, is the the air temp coming out?

The 70* in the basement shows you are losing heat there rather than getting it upstairs to the house itself.


 
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Post by forgach0206 » Fri. Jan. 09, 2015 10:20 am

titleist1 wrote:Welcome to the forum!

Do you have any return air piped back to the stoker?

The 110-140 temp you mention near the register, is the the air temp coming out?

The 70* in the basement shows you are losing heat there rather than getting it upstairs to the house itself.
What I have that was installed by the previous homeowner is two 8 inch ducts that come off the stove and one goes to a 12x12 floor register at the 1st floor bottom steps to the second floor. It continues from there to my office then goes to my second floor. From there that splits and goes to my 2 bedrooms. The other 8 inch duct follows the same path other than going to the 12x12 at the steps. It has a register in my office and then goes to the second floor and splits to the same two bedrooms. I would guess that one would have to be return air but they are at the same height as each other. All the duct is insulated except the first 3 feet coming off the stove. The 110-140 air temp is what is measured with an infrared thermometer inside the registers.

 
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Post by forgach0206 » Fri. Jan. 09, 2015 10:28 am

This is what my burn looks like and the stove temp for it. The burning coal is closer to the end then what the picture shows. It must be the angle of the picture.

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Post by WNY » Fri. Jan. 09, 2015 12:52 pm

To get more heat, plug the combustion fan in directly, dont' run it off the rheostat. Unless you have it turned all the way up. it will give it more air, and more heat. It does looks like your burning pretty good tho. Also, To get more heat, light the other burner, that will help a lot. I could only get about 350-400 with only 1 burner going.

You should block off the Air Ducts on the front of the stove if your not using them, or don't need the heat in the basement. or modify your heat jacket to harnes those air tubes, they produce a lot of heat too! I made my jacket down far enough to catch those for more heat.

you need to check the draft on the stove correctly with a gauge, you could be loosing heat up the chimney too.

 
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Post by forgach0206 » Fri. Jan. 09, 2015 1:44 pm

WNY wrote:To get more heat, plug the combustion fan in directly, dont' run it off the rheostat. Unless you have it turned all the way up. it will give it more air, and more heat. It does looks like your burning pretty good tho. Also, To get more heat, light the other burner, that will help a lot. I could only get about 350-400 with only 1 burner going.

You should block off the Air Ducts on the front of the stove if your not using them, or don't need the heat in the basement. or modify your heat jacket to harnes those air tubes, they produce a lot of heat too! I made my jacket down far enough to catch those for more heat.

you need to check the draft on the stove correctly with a gauge, you could be loosing heat up the chimney too.
Unfortunately the other combustion fan rattles like a son of a bee, and I haven't had a chance to check the part number to get a replacement.

Originally I was just going to purchase the covers for the air ducts on the front.

As for the meter I plan on purchasing one to see what my draft is.


 
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Post by WNY » Fri. Jan. 09, 2015 6:17 pm

Ok. I think once you get the other items adjusted, and everything checked, you should get some good heat from the stove.

The blowers usually need oiling, take it off and oil it, check the squirrel cage fan setscrew and make sure it's not loose and rattling. you may not need a new one.

Mine has been up to about 550 at max burning and does a good job keeping temps upstairs. I do have the CoalTroal to control mine. it maintains temps really well.

I use the stock blowers and a 3rd blower for the jacket with a adjustable temp. switch. my old furnace is convection only, so I don't have a blower on it.

I put a double switch box on my combustion and feeders to control individually.

 
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Post by forgach0206 » Fri. Jan. 09, 2015 7:33 pm

WNY wrote:Ok. I think once you get the other items adjusted, and everything checked, you should get some good heat from the stove.

The blowers usually need oiling, take it off and oil it, check the squirrel cage fan setscrew and make sure it's not loose and rattling. you may not need a new one.

Mine has been up to about 550 at max burning and does a good job keeping temps upstairs. I do have the CoalTroal to control mine. it maintains temps really well.

I use the stock blowers and a 3rd blower for the jacket with a adjustable temp. switch. my old furnace is convection only, so I don't have a blower on it.

I put a double switch box on my combustion and feeders to control individually.
My stove doesn't have the convection blowers. You think that would help "wash" the heat from the stove and push it through the ducts? If so, do you know what the part number and brand is?

How difficult is it to install the Coal-Trol?

 
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Post by WNY » Fri. Jan. 09, 2015 7:43 pm

since your jacket sides are all open, the factory blowers prolly wouldn't help. I don't know the models of them, LL guys would know.
My heat jacket is semi sealed around the stove. It's bent all the way to the bottom of the stove. So the external 3rd blower (i think 500cfm) washes the sides via a temp switch. I think set about 120 def. F. the other 2 factory blowers blow the heat up the back and top and thru the open ports in the front.

The CoalTrol is easy plug and play. Depending on your wiring to your stokers and blowers. If you have plugs on the ends, it's easy.! If not, a little bit of re-wiring is necessary.

Here's a pic of mine with the jacket.

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