Hand Fire Coal Stove Question
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We can not seem to keep the coal fire going overnight. No matter how much coal we add by morning the stove is either completely cold or has just the remnants of heat/glowing coals inside. I read here all the time about people who only light their stove a couple of times a winter and I wonder what we are doing wrong.
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debel, please elaborate on just what you are doing currently. I suspect draft. Have you had problems in the past? When did you fire up? What are your draft settings? How much coal do you load? Do you regularly use a poker? What brand coal are you using? Do you have a manometer? These are just some of the questions that other members will ask. We are all here to help each other, however, we need to know the basics.
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Yep, a few pix would be real helpful--stove, chimney inlet. Probably a pretty simple fix:) Go to search box--top right corner & type in GODIN--plenty of info there that may help--BUT-still post pix & a little more info.
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Common answers to that problem:
Ashes not cleared enough.
Stove not filled and fired at such a rate that coal is exhausted.
More details of stove, grates, and chimney needed .
Ashes not cleared enough.
Stove not filled and fired at such a rate that coal is exhausted.
More details of stove, grates, and chimney needed .
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Franco I highly agree with all of the above; But I also highly suspect they are using secondary's to an excess causing low draft to the fire bed.franco b wrote:Common answers to that problem:
Ashes not cleared enough.
Stove not filled and fired at such a rate that coal is exhausted.
More details of stove, grates, and chimney needed .
Jim
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Thank you all for trying to help. We just bought the house with the stove already in place so I do not know much about the install etc . . . I have attached a couple of pictures and will take any additional that are needed. We clear the ash pan at least twice a day, use a mixture of nut and pea coal. We fill the stove to the top of the fire line. Once we finally get the fire going it burns hot, keep the chimney opened about 1/3 of the way and the draft on the ash door open two turns.
I know we are doing so many things wrong, have been reading as much as we can but still not getting it right.
I know we are doing so many things wrong, have been reading as much as we can but still not getting it right.
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What do you mean by fire line? The stove should be filled to a few inches of the exhaust.
Without filling, it would account for the two turns open on the air adjustment and poor burning. Once burning properly less than one turn should be enough. Unless filled, too much air bypasses the coal.
Coal will bridge and need a poke from the top to fall.
Without filling, it would account for the two turns open on the air adjustment and poor burning. Once burning properly less than one turn should be enough. Unless filled, too much air bypasses the coal.
Coal will bridge and need a poke from the top to fall.
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There is a line on the inside of the stove that is about 1/2 up the inside. We assumed that it was a fill line and never fill it higher than that.
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Because the air can bypass the coal until the coal is well over the height of that front grill or grate it will not burn well. The burn pattern tends to be front to back. It must be filled to within a few inches of the exhaust opening. Continue adding coal a bit at a time to reach that point and the stove will behave entirely differently in a good way.debel wrote:There is a line on the inside of the stove that is about 1/2 up the inside. We assumed that it was a fill line and never fill it higher than that.
The next problem is to adequately clear the ash. Because the grate does not cover the entire bottom there are areas that do not clear. A thin metal piece may be needed to slip under the front grill to clear that area.
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D, do you have an owners/operators manual for the GODIN?????????????
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I see your unit has a knob on the door; THIS IS SECONDARIES, close it when running!!! Only use it when reloading!!!!! As I have previously mentioned!!! Check out my previous posts. Secondary's are only used for reloading. When unit is running turn this knob OFF!!!
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The knob on the door is primary air, there is only some internal secondary air that is bled off the primary.J F Graham wrote:I see your unit has a knob on the door; THIS IS SECONDARIES, close it when running!!! Only use it when reloading!!!!! As I have previously mentioned!!! Check out my previous posts. Secondary's are only used for reloading. When unit is running turn this knob OFF!!!
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This would explain a whole lot; Then how does this run on coal?franco b wrote:The knob on the door is primary air, there is only some internal secondary air that is bled off the primary.J F Graham wrote:I see your unit has a knob on the door; THIS IS SECONDARIES, close it when running!!! Only use it when reloading!!!!! As I have previously mentioned!!! Check out my previous posts. Secondary's are only used for reloading. When unit is running turn this knob OFF!!!
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Thank you all so much. I feel like I have learned more on this past few hours then I have in the last two months trying to get this to work properly.