Anyone Recognize This Stove?

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Post by Pauliewog » Thu. Jan. 22, 2015 12:48 am

The owner of this stove advertised it as needing paint. I asked him to send me a picture........... Well needless to say I think I broke his little heart when I politely gave him my opinion.
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If you notice the item next to it, on the floor to the right ......you might imagine how the conversation started.

Then tonight after a few adult beverages I took a look at the picture and thought myself ......... I kinda like it :D .....But .......What is it ?

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Post by coalfan » Thu. Jan. 22, 2015 1:31 am

be nice to see some more pictures and at different angales looks like it might be a good project stove !!?

 
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Post by Pauliewog » Thu. Jan. 22, 2015 2:15 am

I asked him to send me more and its like pulling teeth. When I got these two I realized why he sent the first pic.

Im sure I can crease, roll, and duplicate the barrel but I really have to see the grates.

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Post by joeq » Thu. Jan. 22, 2015 6:23 am

With the loading door that low, do you think it might be a better wood burner? Doesn't look like the fire box would be very deep.

 
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Post by Photog200 » Thu. Jan. 22, 2015 8:20 am

joeq wrote:With the loading door that low, do you think it might be a better wood burner? Doesn't look like the fire box would be very deep.
It is also a direct vent Oak style stove, it would burn wood better than coal.

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Post by Pauliewog » Thu. Jan. 22, 2015 8:31 am

joeq wrote:With the loading door that low, do you think it might be a better wood burner? Doesn't look like the fire box would be very deep.
It might be. I'm not sure if that shaker handle is mounted that high or just stuck I a storage hole that high above the ash door.

There doesn't appear to be any type of over fire draft adjustment either.

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Post by Pauliewog » Thu. Jan. 22, 2015 9:13 am

Photog200 wrote: It is also a direct vent Oak style stove, it would burn wood better than coal.

Randy
Thanks Guys

That's why I'm looking for our members expert opinions.
I have an unique project in mind and I would hate to destroy a potentially restorable coal stove in the process.

I don't mind at all putting the plasma and tig to a wood burner.

Paulie

 
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Post by Photog200 » Thu. Jan. 22, 2015 10:11 am

Pauliewog wrote:
Photog200 wrote: It is also a direct vent Oak style stove, it would burn wood better than coal.

Randy
Thanks Guys

That's why I'm looking for our members expert opinions.
I have an unique project in mind and I would hate to destroy a potentially restorable coal stove in the process.

I don't mind at all putting the plasma and tig to a wood burner.

Paulie
It probably would burn coal but it would not be the most efficient at it. Can't see what style grates are in it, so there is a lot that we cannot tell about the stove. It looks like the left side door slides on a rail to close. I have heard those types of doors leak in a lot of air but have never used one myself.

Randy

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Post by chrisbuick » Thu. Jan. 22, 2015 10:26 am

Paulie - While it does have some nice castings, especially the filigree skirting, I would consider it to be a pretty common oak, which unfortunately is a top draft and it needs a new cylinder. Those sliding loading doors would be a concern, since they would probably leak air.

Lots of work and lots of rust. I wouldn't pay more than $75-125. Neither would I drive very far to get it.

There are lots of beautys out there, which have sophisticated features and designs.

Keep looking!!

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Post by Pauliewog » Thu. Jan. 22, 2015 10:40 am

Randy,

I'm pretty sure the right side slides also. All of the oak multi fuel stoves I've seen had some type of upper draft adjustment and I'd be leary burning coal without adding some type.

BTW .......I was up in your neck of the woods yesterday . I picked up a Herald in Bainbridge and looked at a Star Gem up in Cortland.
How you doing with your Andes?

Paulie


 
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Post by Photog200 » Thu. Jan. 22, 2015 10:54 am

Pauliewog wrote:Randy,

I'm pretty sure the right side slides also. All of the oak multi fuel stoves I've seen had some type of upper draft adjustment and I'd be leary burning coal without adding some type.

BTW .......I was up in your neck of the woods yesterday . I picked up a Herald in Bainbridge and looked at a Star Gem up in Cortland.
How you doing with your Andes?

Paulie
Cortland is about 1.5 hours South of me, I live near the South East shore of Lake Ontario...Just East & North of Oswego. I think you got a couple of nice stoves in those Herald's and will give you some good projects to work on.

Over the last couple of days I cut the warped grate into four sections, drilled and pined them with JB Weld epoxy. I just this morning put the final coating of epoxy on them so I have to wait for that to cure, then grind and file it back into shape. I was hoping to find a grate in good condition to send to the foundry for a pattern but that has not been working out. I got the grate fairly straight and will put it in the stove to see how well it works before sending it off to the foundry. It certainly is not perfect, but straighter than when I started. Keeping my fingers crossed! After I get the new grate back, I will line the firepot and then it will be ready for fire. I am pretty sure I am going to hook it up in the living room so I can see how well it works. I am getting excited about trying it out, will probably be at least another 3-4 weeks.

Randy

 
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Post by Pauliewog » Thu. Jan. 22, 2015 11:03 am

chrisbuick wrote:Paulie - While it does have some nice castings, especially the filigree skirting, I would consider it to be a pretty common oak, which unfortunately is a top draft and it needs a new cylinder. Those sliding loading doors would be a concern, since they would probably leak air.

Lots of work and lots of rust. I wouldn't pay more than $75-125. Neither would I drive very far to get it.

There are lots of beautys out there, which have sophisticated features and designs.

Keep looking!!

Chris
Thanks Chris,

The filgree skirting is what draws me to the stove.
Problem is even if I got it for $100 or less its 2 hours away.

There is a nice Golden Oak in that same vicinity and if we get closer in price I would stop in and take a closer look.

My goal is to stumble on a base burner in my travels. :D

Paulie

 
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Post by Pauliewog » Thu. Jan. 22, 2015 11:31 am

Photog200 wrote:
Pauliewog wrote:Randy,

Cortland is about 1.5 hours South of me, I live near the South East shore of Lake Ontario...Just East & North of Oswego. I think you got a couple of nice stoves in those Herald's and will give you some good projects to work on.

Over the last couple of days I cut the warped grate into four sections, drilled and pined them with JB Weld epoxy. I just this morning put the final coating of epoxy on them so I have to wait for that to cure, then grind and file it back into shape. I was hoping to find a grate in good condition to send to the foundry for a pattern but that has not been working out. I got the grate fairly straight and will put it in the stove to see how well it works before sending it off to the foundry. It certainly is not perfect, but straighter than when I started. Keeping my fingers crossed! After I get the new grate back, I will line the firepot and then it will be ready for fire. I am pretty sure I am going to hook it up in the living room so I can see how well it works. I am getting excited about trying it out, will probably be at least another 3-4 weeks.

Randy
Thats awesome! ...I can feel the excitment from here. Take your time on the grate template. When testing it use the 5 second rule.

If you hesitate for more than 5 seconds.....spend another day and build it up and grind it down again. You will never regret it .

A spare set might be an option which Im sure crossed your mind more than once.

And off to the plating shop I go :out:

Paulie

 
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Post by Photog200 » Thu. Jan. 22, 2015 12:12 pm

Paulie, I hear ya on the building up and grinding. This is the third day of doing that, tonight I should be able to try it in the stove to make sure it will turn in there. I think it will be fine because it was only hitting by a small amount before doing anything. I got quite a bit of the warp out of it. However, you are correct, do it once and do it right! :cheers:

Randy

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